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A “viral theory”?

What’s “attractive” can have as much to do with personality and character as it can physical appearance. I love it when people can see the beauty within. Because as they say, physical beauty is only skin deep. Character matters. 

"Dating down" and "settling" for... men who treat them well? That is a basic requirement for a healthy relationship, it's vare minimum thst you treat your partner well and respect them and support them in their endeavors.

"Pretty women out walking with gorillas down my street..." www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TzK...

They were both ogres tho...

I've made an entire lifetime of dating/marrying way out of my league by being a top-quality Shrek, even decades before the first movie existed.

holy moly it's almost as if attraction to appearance is subjective and also partially motivated by how you are treated

Shrek? Pfeh! That was the plot of Disney's Beauty and the Beast.

New viral theory that women have “Interiority” and may “prioritize different qualities,” but some men remain skeptical.

as a pansexual man, I've always found super jacked dudes to be a niche attraction, with chubby dad build guys to be the holy grail of hotness. I kinda suspect this is also a common taste among women, despite what looksmaxxer straight dudes seem to think

My ex-wife made a similar choice in college. When she hit her 30s and the testosterone:estrogen ratio started to increase (as it does in most women of that age), she realized that her desires were just as shallow as those of any 20-year-old male. She dumped me for a taller guy. Two of 'em, in fact.

College also doesn't last forever. The ravages of time make maintaining youthful, conventionally attractive looks a lot more difficult than a kind, caring, gentle, loving personality. Nobody wants to be stuck with a hateful potato.

I've been using Shrekking to refer to having sex in a marsh

So they have standards different from mine(me)! Oh hell no! Not okay!

In all seriousness, sorry if this comes off like an attack. But do you think maybe you're simply a lesbian? There are for sure women that find men physically attractive. Male strip clubs do exist. Gay men exist.

But there are so many, how to choose between all the nice shreks? Hint: go for the attractive one!

Obligatory;

More than anything I am attracted to a warm smile and kind eyes. Gender independent. Weight independent. If somebody's whole face lights up when they smile, and they give that smile readily, chances are good I'll think they're attractive

Where the fuck were any of you when my fat ass was coming up? But…big ups to my fellow ogres for their happiness.

Pretty sure I’m getting shrecked

Imagine having more wealth than many governments and being reduced to this.

has this very phenomena not been around since like the dawn of print at least?

Hmm, Playboy publishing article that can't take dating as a normal social interaction and instead uses terms of an incel sexist? Well I never!

Lmao yeah no shit, why would you be with someone who treats you like shit when you can be with someone that doesn't? This is not a new concept or a trend; y'all are dumb AF.

I’ve been getting Shreked for over 20 years

I feel like this is actually pretty normal and not a new trend at all, please playboy magazine, just because there's a catchy name for it doesn't mean it's a trend, it's just an established reality that women's taste in men is more varied and complex than men give them credit for.

lmfao actually... actually this is the best way to put it

Playboy? Wtf? This still exists?

This is 100% true, women have been taught to lower their standards to the ground by years of media to convince them to date ugly schmucks and schlubs

lookmaxxers can never grasp the concept of ugly hot or a funny warm personality

Why'd you reach out to a 35-year-old man for a pull quote about college dating trends? And is this person in a happy relationship?

A six is "dating down." An interesting take.

As an ugly person I have no relationship data to prove or disprove this, I’m expecting to die alone but I’ll take your word for it.

Mind-blowing. Who would have thought

Good thing you got a quote from a misogynist asshole Maybe what women think is hot in men isn’t what men think is hot in men?

guys you've been doing such a good job juxtaposing yourselves against the current culture as men who talk to women, why ruin that now?

Those girls are not "dating down", they are dating ten. It is just that men are wrong when they try to calculate their own value.

Why are you guys doing incel content? Aren't you supposed to be the guys who get laid?

When I first read “shrekking,” I thought it was some new weird sex thing. Then again, who says it isn’t, I guess. Someone out there will have a go at it. Ha! Literally & figuratively. 😂

In other news, looks aren't everything.

my time is now!

Pretty sure that, as a matter of general policy, "don't be a jerk" would make for a better society.

BREAKING NEWS- Women prefer men that don't treat them like shit!

Let me guess, substandard males with an undeservedly high opinion of their attractiveness came up with this "viral" theory.

Something something hypergramy, somethign something something shrekking, everything needs some new term smh

So people care more about looks than personality, values, ethics and politics? No wonder there are so many divorces.

This would have been nice to happen when I was in college. 😞

Nearly 40 years since Jessica Rabbit laid it out, and men still don't get it.

Technically you can only be Shrekking if you're Scottish, otherwise it's just sparkling reclusion

Playboy still exists ?!

This is not a new trend - look at pretty much any couple. She's almost always better looking! LOL.

"I want a man who's so grateful to be fucking that I can walk all over him"

"We can't say the entire premise of inceldom was a lie without upsetting the wrong people, so when confronted with the actual reality of straight women's dating preferences, we'll pretend it's some weird new trend"

That’s not what shrekking is, see it’s when you

Shrek yourself before you wreck yourself

Incels/Misogynists assume that women are completely shallow and only want looks and money because they are self-pitying. They can't change either and it justifies their hate. If women like a man because of his personality then that means the problem is them.

THIS! They couldn’t possibly write an article about how women are just more evolved and mature than men and so look for different things in a relationship. They had to make sure they included a little belittling.

Men prioritize looks. Women have never prioritized looks. They prioritize personality, intelligence, even money, before looks.

Reece and Will on America’s Sweethearts is finally making sense now. Thanks.

wow, people prefer to be treated well, what a theory

This is all a bit bear shits in woods isn't it? I mean jeez it's not a shocker that pretty women also want to be treated well.

"They're calling it 'Shrekk-maxing'. College girls going out for a good time, next thing they know they're loading the Palisade with the week's Big Shop."

The interesting thing about this is how it is a direct refutation of manosphere theories that all women are weak and shallow and will always gravitate towards the macho “alpha male”.

Also, not using some kind of numbering system for men. Just be good people, it isn't hard.

All of this is male-coded. "Settling", "dating down" "six/ten", blah blah shallow crap. Is looks really the only thing men [whose opinions get broadcast] can think about? Like, really just nothing going on under the surface there?

Wait you’re telling me the totality of a human being can’t actually be summed up in a 1/10 scale?

They're not 10's then if they're treating women like garbage.

Duh. And it doesn’t need a special name either. The bar is in hell.

Their benchmark for boyfriends was our neighbor’s post-divorce boyfriend who spent every day of Covid lockdown at her house mowing, painting, and basically treating her like a queen. They spent whole afternoons watching this average-looking middle-aged guy push the mower around our neighbor’s yard.

Thaaaaat's not settling, that's picking the better man.

I wish Joe Jackson would write a retraction for “Is she really going out with him?” But he came out as bi some time ago so I can give him a pass.

Yes, and it was rightfully called out for this shit in the past. It's doing it again - with a new coat of millenial/zoomer internet-poisoned misogyny - so it's getting called out again

I think Stephanie is cooking and I appreciate her take on this bullshit Playboy article so…

"boys will be boys"

As I have already replied to 2 other people, there's a difference between mainstream sexism (which is also wrong), and asking women if they are doing that thing that incels say they are doing.

Of course, Playboy magazine is talking about "beautiful women" because - well - who cares about any other women.

I’m sorry, but I can’t get over the premise of the reporting. “Hello dear, do you know what shrekking is, and are you doing it?” Why would you even give the slightest credence to these kinds of propagandist terms dredged from the cesspools that are the radical masculinist milieus?

like everything else pertaining to the attractiveness/unattractiveness put in scoreboard terms, this is dude only shit

This feels like a social media bait weaponizing curiosity. I'll type "shrekking" into TikTok, which will show me the precise keyword shorts of random niche creators and in turn not only skew my algorithm but boost the search key word for everyone else, thus proliferating the content. I hate it.

Exactly zero.

Flipside is why are article writers so obsessed with incel style lingo.

I'm pretty sure that any woman I know who would use "Shrek" as a verb would mean moving to a swamp, getting fat, and yelling at your neighbors.

I agree. I was referring to the women interviewed, who identify as women. Have a good one.

Considering the epidemic of gender-based violence, I’m all out of sympathy for men - young or old - who can’t get their shit together. >Himpathy / herasure. Look it up.

There's a difference between mainstream sexism and asking women if they are doing that thing that incels say they are doing.

It doesn't matter what a man looks like. An ugly man is just as likely to try to humble you to keep you on "his level." Only how they act matters.

This isn't "settling"

Are you sure it's "treat me like a queen" more than "treat me like a human with agency"?? Because that's kinda what I'm seeing (as an old married guy who people watches occasionally)

If that's your pre-loaded by society frame of the world, the human mind will tend to up-weight evidence that confirms it and down-weight evidence that doesn't And some women do fit that mold. So they take that as confirmation, despite more women not fitting that mold 2/2

This is such old news, we’ve actually moved on to not settling for any man because

That's not settling. That's a win.

Who the fuck gives a shit about this nonsense. Straight ppl make themselves miserable and then take it out on the rest of us, istg.

Huh, maybe, just maybe, people have different ideas as to what constitutes beauty.

But no, guys, keep hitting yourself in the face with hammers. That really appeals to normal women.

Curious. My ex said I was the most attractive of the men she’s been with, and yet she also timed her breakup with me to coincide with choosing to pursue someone who sucks in how he treats her, and is also less intelligent than she is. There’s rarely any logic in who we select to be interested in.

There's precedent for this:

ALTERNATE HEADLINE: "Women aren't shallow and prefer men who treat them well over those who don't"

And to think I used to read playboy for the articles

the 2nd demographic group, below white men

Heckin yeah

I... might struggle with that one too but that's because I really don't enjoy Woolf's writing (which I have read enough of to come to come to that conclusion) At the very least, they need to pass a rudimentary test about how not to be a fucking misogynist tool.

Just the first ten words would have been fine.