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Yeah, you can just fuck right off with this bullshit

good people on both sides huh?

Craig Spencer sounds pretty dumb

They certainly seem to plump for it. I've mentioned this before, but there's a question of informed consent here, because the True Believeroonies will try to use reiki at a distance despite religious objections. www.thecatholictelegraph.com/qa-what-does...

Too many. If you’re a fan, let’s not waste each other’s time.

By MD, seriously, medical doctor or merchant of death? In this day and age one cannot be certain, especially if you agree with any part of MAHA.

Gfy

I was thinking about paying for The Atlantic again then I read this. Thanks for saving me the money.

No. Fuck you.

The thing you're missing is that MAHA is not at all interested in real problems. They focus on vaccines and ignore Big Pharma's criminal marketing of opioids. They freak out about fluoride and ignore PFAS which are a real carcinogen. So reframing for legitimate concerns will not work

I’ve never met any MAHA supporter who wasn’t an antivaxxer. Just look at the 21 members of the IACC that RFK added. ALL antivaxxers as far as I can tell. (3 of them have been in my home) How does the author explain that?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

MAHA is furious that all the good things RFK promised to do about toxins and food have not been done because they conflict with Trump's let businesses do anything they want agenda. But Craig thinks we should embrace that.

Exactly. Maha wants chemicals out of food, no ultra processed foods & no vapes. but maha & their goals are irrelevant when a corp can pay off 🍊 🤡 to get their flavored vapes on the market with no regs & sideline the epa & other agencies keeping us safe.

Oh yes, collaborate with the people who are trying to destroy medical science. Great idea, Dr. Spencer. You have just affirmed the decision I made a few weeks ago to cancel The Atlantic, with this inance both sideserism crap.

Fuck off with this.

Cool ragebait, bro

A lot of people know - they don’t believe. They know.

What the fuck are you talking about

Fuck you

This is rubbish, and a huge disappointment.

What is wrong with you? I used to proudly subscribe and this absolute garbage is one more reminder why not. MAHA is an anti-vaccine and anti-science grift and if you want to pretend it is anything else then you’ve long past left journalism to be courtiers of the oligarchs.

Fuck off with this crap

Craig Spencer, if you happen to read this, you need to go away forever. Become a lighthouse keeper. A monk. Something where you can't lie from a platform like this. You will get people killed.

Have you considered the delightful opportunities in simultaneous perambulation and autofornication?

This: “There are fights that are strongly supported by *both sides* … air quality in neighborhoods sharing zip codes with industrial facilities, lead and toxins in the water kids are drinking, and the poor quality of the food Americans eat and its clear negative impact …” Is absolute horseshit.

I hope you get measles

And Craig Spencer would be wrong.

Stop it with this

@craigspencer.bsky.social we would have more respect for them if they actually made any part of America more healthy Most of MAHA is smoke and mirrors for big business.

Have you heard the Atlantic’s theme song … youtu.be/azdlpIy7oaQ?...

You’re a rag and a joke. GTFO

No.

Oh fuck off, Atlantic.

Disingenuous claptrap.

Sometimes the wanker editors at The Atlantic confuse kneejerk gainsaying with thoughtful rebuttals

When I went away to college years ago one of the gifts my Mom got me was my own subscription to the Atlantic so we could talk about things written by writers like James Fallows and William Langewiesche over the phone, and I have to tell you I canceled that shit because of pieces like this

I didn't know the brain worms were contagious, but here we are.

What is wrong with you people?

The Atlantic is one of the worst publications in the US today.

No.

Atlantic still trying to stake out that middle ground between bat shit fascism and corporate neoliberalism

The toxic dumpster fire we call The Atlantic never fails to amaze.

Much like when they said "the swamp" and many heard "corruption" when what was meant was "guards against corruption", the many didn't realize RFK sees nutrients as toxins and feces as all natural health food

Today’s fascists don’t even like trains anymore!

Mussolini also didn't make the trains run on time. He laid off unionized workers and had to use the military to keep it from breaking down.

But crashed into each other *on time.*

Also under Mussolini the trains absolutely did not run on time, his government just manipulated the stats.

An opportunity—an opportunity for what? An early death driven by social Darwinism?

This article argues that MAHA is a "movement" with different wings. But it isn't. MAHA is RFK Jr's slogan. Supporting MAHA simply means supporting RFK Jr, anti-vax stuff and all.

oh yeah cuz WE’RE the problem.

What’s it like being so smart, yet so profoundly stupid?

now you’re just trying to have bad takes

“Andrew Wakefield was just asking questions,” says person born yesterday with no access to look up how much money he was set to make from pushing his lies

I'm so disgusted with The Atlantic becoming the tool of autocracy and propaganda. Gross.

What in the ever-lovin’-walleyed-fuck is THIS, Atlantic? You trying to out-Ezra Ezra Klein? 🤦🏻‍♂️

What crack head wrote this drivel? Do better Atlantic!

Take so trash it makes AI blush. Who needs AI slop when we have The Atlantic, which can generate the more sustainable human-made slop?

You will be able to predict maha/rfk’s next move far better by treating them as being an entirely anti-science anti-health movement than by attempting to judiciously evaluate their pluses and minuses

Seriously, what the fuck happened to you?

White supremacist apologia. Nonsense at best, more likely running cover for eugenics cause he doesn’t mind the outcome.

No.

what is wrong with you

Craig Spencer should say much much less.

Sharp turn. www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...

You are a bunch of clowns

Fuck you.

The whole article boils down to, "Rubes are tied of hearing experts give them complicated explanations. MAHA offers easy-to-understand answers like snake oil and raw milk."

A lot of people say scams are bad to invest in, but Charles Ponzi argues . . .

I was a subscriber until they put RFKJr on the cover. That was it for me. This…is beyond.

Shit like this is why I don’t subscribe.

fuck off with this shit

Dear Atlantic, I need you to — and I cannot stress this next bit enough — fuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkk off.

You really don’t have to publish crap like this.

Very, very ignorant take. Measles? Whooping cough? Explosive diarrhea? Babies bleeding out? Take your MAHA and get out.

MAHA is eugenics

Measles is back, children are dying because of a lack of Vitamin K shots, people are shitting themselves inside out, and screwworm is threatening the entire beef industry In summary: chew glass

Child murderers

Ummm, it is nothing more than a subversive anti-vaccine, anti-science syndicate. Anyone who claims otherwise is a malignant dumbfuck.

So show us, with data, what they are rught about…

More pro-regime propaganda from The Atlantic, the disinformation arm of the Trump administration.

Still unhappy I can’t cancel our subscription again

What the fuck is wrong with you

Did the measles virus write this?

You don't have to give inches to people who posit "what if the brain worms guy is right about vaccines and germ theory being fake"

Seriously? FFS.

When it comes to covering science, medicine, and health, _The Atlantic_ has consistently been a joke. But not a funny joke. A cesspool that consistently and recklessly endangers the citizens of the United States. You ought to be ashamed. I am glad to have given up my subscription years ago.

I kinda feel like The Atlantic is this close to running a "Praising Monsters of History" series.

gfy

No, a bunch of grifting eugenicist are not right about anything.

Yeah its almost like something you could solve with... i don't know some kind of collective funding effort? protected from political interference... Nobody's cancelled anything like that lately have they?

support.theatlantic.com/hc/en-us/art...

They were thought leaders in pandemic minimisation and trans villification too. But yeah, flying their fuckwit flag ever higher.

Absolutely definitively not.

You can also print your publication with ink, if you ever run out of bullshit.

What the fuck

Fuck off losers

What the hell is wrong with you?

That’s funny. You’re funny; and stupid.

No. Really no.

MAHA has power (for now), so empire-builders are jumping in to trade normalization for a piece of the action. That's standard institutional medical politics! Team anti-vax and team anti-PPE are rivals inside the same country club. They don't differ on principles - they just bet on different horses.

Counterpoint: No, and fuck off

I don't know who Craig Spencer is. I haven't read any papers from him - guess he works in a different field of science than I. But I do know he is very, very fucking wrong.

They’re just liars. Sociopathic liars who, for some unfathomable reason, enjoy helping unravel society. It’s sick.

No.

Lol, no. Be better.

Just stop.