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It's okay to like good things even though you dislike bad things.

this is not that, part ∞

wow is that true

"It's only bad when the proles fight back."

I've never seen anyone contort so hard to get a boot in their mouth but here we are. 😐

Damn, you're dumb as dogshit.

This isn't even remotely similar.

You know there is evidence of health insurance companies denying needed coverage, right?

oh no this guy would've been SUPER upset that killing hitler put nazi germany's GDP in jeopardy

that's why I only lionize vigilante murder against people who actually do deserve it.

These two situations aren't even remotely similar. One situation was obviously fake and deluded, and the individual was brainwashed into an alternate reality. The other was based fully in the reality of insurers killing people daily through fraudulent denials while execs pocket millions in blood $.

This is a very dumb comparison

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" - some vigilante asshole who was... well he actually was running a child sex trafficking hub so maybe I shouldn't be quoting Tommy J. But still, foundational document.

Reaching pretty far there have you ever thought about going out for intramural basketball?

The doctors who prescribe penicillin for infections are exactly as confident as the naturopaths who prescribe homeopathic caffeine for insomnia. Makes you think.

Nobody thinks its great society has come to this. We'd all rather the government did something about the health insurance ceos of the world slowly and deliberately killing us so line go up. But pigs will fly etc, so this is what happens, in both cases.

He had absolutely zero reason to actually believe that though, you fucking clown.

No I'm fine with it .

But unlike Welch, Mangione attended an Ivy League university; not only that, he placed better than that of his alleged victim who went to Iowa If you went to a good university, especially if it is an Ivy, you get a pass on any and all crimes. Those are the American rules; I don't make them

If only there were another remedy, like through an organized system of laws and justice that are actually brought to bear on corporate wrongdoers.

I’m actually impressed at the myopia here. I mean, I’m horrified too but fucking wow it was crazy. You were able to do that.

This feels like one of those posts where the poster ends up leaving Bluesky because they don't like the response it receives. You're right about vigilante murders but to say the comparison is a bit laboured would be putting it mildly.

Hey man is this your audition for the New York Times?

Healthcare CEOs are parasites committing social murder. Hope this helps. 🙏

and just when i thought i was going to have to permanently retire my folder of these. thanks man

Ok wait they are equivalent bcuz… level of confidence? Okay 👌 but maybe I’m missing something but I’m pretty sure right wingers just can’t think haha

See and here I thought it was conservatives that didn’t understand logical fallacies.

Are you stupid or something?

Okay but what if the guy who got whacked actually DESERVED to get whacked?

Hmmm, paranoid conspiracy about child sex pizza, objectively real harm being caused by capitalist exploitation. These are the same thing.

My favorite is how clever you must have felt writing this. What if *thing* was almost *completely different thing* what then? Checkmate

You look like a baby in a bad suit

Hey man. Really dumb take here.

The US does not have rule of law anymore, so how are you defining vigilante? When Musk cuts Aid illegally that is vigilantism. When people are deported illegally that is vigilantism. When ICE murder mothers and nurses on the street that is too. At least Mangione's heart was in the right place.

Im presuming your last name ends in " ski" because " tobaggan" is too hard to spell

There was an organised psychological info operation to activate the Comet shooter, which is just one of the meaningful differences that make these a poor comparison

Wouldn't kill Hitler, got it

okay but if there *was* a sex trafficking hub, and he assassinated the CEO of sex trafficking, would it be okay to think that is a good thing or nah?

you really need to get it through your thick, privileged skull just how many people the American health insurance industry kills every year. gormless centrist hacks like you are more than happy with sacrificing the destitute by the thousands as long as it's done with paperwork instead of a gun

What's if this unrelated thing thats entirely different also happened. Makes you think doesnt it?

Yeah, but he was factually incorrect. The United Health Care guy did that shit that caused mass death by denying payment for necessary health care.

We get it, man, you don't like it when class violence impacts people who you relate to.

As economic and political power is concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, widespread action with low impact loses all its meaning: therefore, firmer action will be exercised over those few relevant agents. Vigilante murder is not "lionised", it is a viable vehicle of change and therefore it is used.

You're posing this as a "where's the line?" Style question when the reality is you stated the line. Mangione was right. Had his facts straight. The other guy did not have his facts straight. It's not that complicated.

This probably hits really hard if you're very stupid.

I'm not sure that's what he was trying to do

He believed in industrial scale murders and genocide AS WELL I would say. But Trotsky was specifically and individually targeted to advance his interests and retard those of his opponents. And it worked.

No don't. Lenin said the same thing.

phwoar it's takes o'clock over here

I mean he wasn't wrong that child murders were happening, just who was doing them and where

You’re the only one saying that

I like you just blew past the person showing your analogy was completely facetious.

ooooh, you're asking white people to stop using MLK like a little virtue signal and challenging them to actually READ what he was saying. unfortunately, that's probably never going to happen.

no, we only encourage them after the fact. what's wrong with you

Yes Dmitry you're very smart now go touch grass.

you don't even go here, bro

Wild that you're acting like people would prefer enacting vigilante justice over a better alternative that just happens to not grossly enrich the wealth class. Universal single payer is the solution, but ofc leaving people with no alternative will drive them to find one bsky.app/profile/jent...

Be quiet, you disingenuous prick.

The wise man bowed his head etc etc

What a spaghetti brained response

also, the dude who went to comet ping pong did absolutely nothing to impact the child trafficking rings he was looking to disrupt. the person who shot the insurance executive motivated a surge of panicked approvals of insurance claims from companies that are famous for rejecting even valid claims.

Stupid on purpose

You already do that with cops, they just only do it to poor people and minorities.

It's a terrible shame that it took vigilante murder for the national conversation about crooked health insurance companies in the US to start in earnest. But it also had to reach that point, and it wasn't out of nowhere. Changes are needed...and as of now, it's any port in a storm.

Well we can't trust people like you, you are dumb fuckers. Normal people we can probably trust.

What doubts do you have that health insurance executives kill people for money

The encouragement to shoot Thompson came from Thompson himself, from his intensely foul and life destroying actions. He didn’t die because we glorify shooting people but because he caused millions of bitter tears at the funerals of real human beings who suffered and died so Brian could live fancy.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"

Oh, sorry. Not sure why this was the photo result for "Brian Thompson"

Who’s encouraging? Given the number of people who suffer needlessly and the number of people who actually die (they’re dying, you get that, right?) because of insurance corporate greed, it’s kind of inevitable. I believe you’ve never been there/loved someone who has. Talk about solutions or STFU.

Instead, people are exculpating a vigilante that killed a guy for a reason many people think is entirely reasonable -- he made his living off the intentional infliction of misery on other human beings. You could at least attempt being honest about what's happening.

We can measure their ideas against reality Come on, what are we doing here?

Yes. If the folk doing the executing are doing so for good reasons upon absolutely irredeemable folk then I'm going to consider that kind of justice of the oppressed valid as all hell. And that is going to become more of a norm with the way things are going in this dystopia.

May you have the same circumstances he did and then show us how you manage.

Idk I think it makes more sense to encourage people to be mad in the correct directions

Where the threshold differs for different people but take J6, for example: It was bad mainly because it was both concocted in bad faith and wrong on the merits, and NOT necessarily because their actions were intrinsically unjustified even in the case of an actual stolen election.

that is the way every justice system works sweetie

Hey man, thats essentially how cops work

I believe it's called "stand your ground"

Yes, absolutely How the fuck do you think we progress as a society? Do you think the system will just take care of that on its own? Ivory tower bullshit from some bougie bluecheck fuckhead

That ceo was a danger to the public though,known drunk driver endangering innocent people, we still dont know what drugs were in that ceo when he got blasted

I am

It would be great if the political and judical systems actually protected the vulnerable and held power to account, but that is not the world we live in and that goes double for the US. Vigilantism is going to be the side effect of the "pragmatic" sacrifices made to protect the Economy™️.

Did you just do a "so you hate waffles" unironically

We live in a country that encourages people like Brian Thompson to execute dozens of people a day because it's profitable. Maybe save your outrage for that.

Lol go fuck yourself.

Let's let billionaires murder indiscriminately for more money and just sit back on our hands.

How many people have to die and how many nonviolent methods of stopping it have to fail for you to even have an ounce of empathy for someone trying something radical to stop mass murder?

Or we could properly tax rich people, do less corruption (corporate lobbying) and do universal healthcare so that people like Brian Thompson wouldn’t be in a position to exploit risk pools.

But lots of ppl encouraged Comet Ping Pong shooter and absolutely no consequences for them. Like get on Laura Ingraham’s ass, not mine.

But a lot of people are trying to encourage anyone else to also do what he did.

until he had already done it. so more celebratory than encouraging

I mean...Brian Thompson sorta did...

I don’t think we should do anything ever just in case some guy with a blue check can somehow make everything the same in his head

So it’s a good thing the courts or the police never make listakes and also never face consequences when they make mistakes

Only if they did their homework.

A Biden defender who doesnt or intentionally won't understand the concept of social murder? Color me surprised.

Because the holocaust was "legal" you would have been a supporter...

the insurance company and every other murderer in charge of that system encouraged him, this isn't that hard to process

Vehicle traffic is trusting your life to the judgements of your fellow citizens. We do it all the time and it almost always works

what even is your point? “vigilante murder is bad even when they’re offing a mass killer who will strike again?” ok cool, so why do you think the vigilante did it instead of waiting for the system to do it? do you think that might be important

You're currently trusting those who have a vested interest in ensuring that their buddies, coworkers, and often even themselves, never face any accountability, to be the sole legitimate entity allowed to deal out accountability and decide who faces it much better than people who are wrong sometimes

The oligarchy is counting on our forbearance. .

You're making up people in your head to argue with

Do you defend all serial killers whith such passion, or do most of them not have a high enough body count to win your sympathy?

Why are you commenting on this issue when you live in a country with socialized medicine? Seems like you’re completely disconnected from the healthcare system in the US but really think that we need your opinion.

Like police and juries? Judges? Tbh, I think I trust Luigi's judgement over that of the current SCOTUS. I think his judgement was more... just. And I'd rather vigilantes offing corrupt CEOs than corrupt cops ending Black kids lives. 🤔 But we trust the cops and judges? Confused.

You must be being stupid on purpose. Do you really think people can't see how you're arguing in bad faith.

Who said encourage? Understand. You keep fostering this idea that any empathy for people wronged by uncaring corporations is encouraging the action. We can understand the action, don't you?

Well, this is a completely disingenuous response. Are you always this obsequious to the insurance executives unaliving our fellow citizens for profit or are you paid extra when you do it?

Brian Thompson was a well-known mass murderer. This is just insane comparison.