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Biden should give them their nukes back.

Biden for Ukraine. Putin is hoping Trump has enough sway with Zelinsky. Trump has very little. Sad that Ukraine's ultimate victory will be without America. Slava Ukraini

The appeasement bus left in 1938. Looks like Mr Heer has missed the bus.

and for you, and anyone reading, here is a brief on landmines, and why the so-called "non-persistent" anti-personnel landmines we're sending, suck. Ofc, this is just the landmines, not even talking about the authorization of long range ballistics in the Kursk operation. www.fcnl.org/sites/defaul...

Hard to say. Best I can tell the troops Ukraine sent into Kursk would have been better used to counterattack in Donbas. Putin does not seem to care about Kursk.

It is amazing to me that people have not learned their lesson about appeasing European dictators

jeet heer with the galaxy brain idea of: "actually it's best to negotiate from a position of weakness".

Nothing personal, but Jeet Heer is better at Twitter than journalism, and this is but the latest example. Whiny, simple hot takes in full-length article form are not for me.

shit, let's give them a few nukes then

The stupid part was that the west was always hesitant in every step to support ukraine. So every help was too little, and too late. Same here unfortunately.

Ukraine will not submit to the Russians. With patience and tenacity, it will win this war and will recover all its territories. The day will come when NATO pray to Ukraine on its knees because it enters the alliance.

A other reminder not to follow those fools.

Without those restrictions, Ukraine could've taken out the launchers and the war might be over. With unrealistic restrictions they just handed another point to whine about for putin. Such double standards are infuriating.

How come nobody wants to listen to Ukraine? What do they want? Zelensky has been clamoring for more weapons & freedom to use. They are smart and they know Russia

Smells like a tankie to me.

How does it make ANY SENSE to call <giving Ukraine what they want> a "betrayal". Heer in the Editor there, right? Because otherwise writing crap like this should be the end of your job.

You're right. Im a coward for confronting this heavily propagandized community of literally everyone in liberal america. Meanwhile you're a hero for reinforcing the idea that tens of thousands more young people should kill each other because you feel putin wants to take over europe

Then why did America force them to denuclearize in 1991?

It’s unfortunately a short sided strategy, one he has no chance of course of completing. We should have either gone all in and put our county in a position to truly provide leading edge weapons to Ukraine or moved them towards negotiations from the start. Now Putin may not quit until he wins

the Nation works for Putin.

He seems to be getting worse

So sick of tankies whose understanding of 🇷🇺 -🇺🇦 history is apparently nil.

I subscribed to The Nation for decades but canceled a few years ago because they were publishing Aaron Mate’s shit.

Jeet refused to believe that Russia would invade, and was raging at Biden for escalation when he was shouting to the world that Russia would invade, right up until the hour that Russian tanks rolled across the border. Guess he’s come all the way back around

Slava Ukraini 💙 💛

I think you have your timeline mixed up a bit. GWOT unilateralism and the Iraq war buried that order well before Russia started its war of aggression. As usual, there are many bad actors (and many dumb leftists), but US foreign policy has itself never felt particularly bound by these strictures.

Certainly a major concern

The real reason China is accelerating their strategic nuclear program. The only thing nukes are good for is deterring nukes

it's cousin to when Putin started the war in 2014 and most of the international liberal establishment, especially in the US, was like "well that's not a REAL war of conquest, best to ignore it"

Precedent we set? The US invades and kills whoever it wants whenever they want because it is powerful. Russia did the same and it is "the left's" precedent? Make it make sense.

I think this is the best possible outcome. I think it's hard to convince Americans that this war may continue without our input. I hope for Ukraine and the rest of Europe that Europe succeeds.

Everything is for sell under Trumpism.

Liberals and leftists alike tbh

Jeet hasn’t operated in good faith in about five years. The Nation also has, uh, a long suspect editorial line on Russia.

Ruzzia go home.

what evidence is there that Putin wants to annex the entire country?

I feel like all those people are just managing to stop themselves from screaming "I LOVE PUTIN!"

that's what I would do. clean out the armories everywhere, let Trump fill them back up

It bums me out when commentators conflates Israel and Ukrainian aid. 1) they are different counties, one slaughtering civilians and the other defending itself from invasion 2) The needed Ukrainian aid is a fraction of the Israel aid

Nuts? every America invasion nuts?

The truth is .. Russia is losing thousands of soldiers daily and Putin is in trouble with the oligarchs ... You are sadly misinformed.... Ask Malcolm Nance..... Believe him before any journalist...

Yeah, that's what I don't get - there's a lot of Palestine-and-Ukraine advocacy out there, especially among communities that are especially in focus now (i.e. trans and enby people - I'm guessing I'm 80th percentile pro-Israel in this sphere and I think Bibi is a war criminal).

Military hardware, purchased by Hezbollah for better security, not used by civilians. Remember, Hezbollah claimed nearly all of the dead in the initial pager attack as its own operatives. Biden was right not to call them terrorists and on hindsight the entire operation was based.

Demilitarization and de-Nazification much

Has it gone on long enough that you can finally admit we should have pushed negotiation in 2022 and avoided the absolute devastation of the last few years?

Jeet is a moron. You are 100% correct.

My God what buttfuckery is this

Thank you for saying this!

Слава Україні!

I dont understand why Americans think that The Nordics, The Baltics and Poland would ever accept Russia even keeping an inch of Ukraine. There will be no peace until Russia is kicked out.

And obviously the more territory they control at that moment the better! (These things are not unrelated!)

Biden's real betrayal of Ukraine was in not doing this sort of thing sooner and burning up diprep w/ funding genocide in palestine.

I know. He can't see the forest for the trees

I don’t think we’re providing nearly enough arms for that scenario to become a reality. I’m not nearly as optimistic about this.

No Steve! We need to demand that Ukraine stops resisting. What's wrong with submitting to a benevolent(?) ruler??

Jeet Heer is like a weathervane always pointed 180 degrees the wrong way

This is one of the most succinct statements on this subject I’ve come across in weeks. 👍

I want you to try a thought experiment... If a foreign country invaded your home, exactly how willing would you be to discuss negotiating giving your home to those Invaders?

bsky.app/profile/bria...

The Nation has long taken a pro Putin line. Poor Putin felt threatened by NATO! As if Ukraine was on the verge if joining this defensive alliance. Ukraine was moving towards democracy and independence. That was the threat.

didnt u used to work together at the nation?

Peace Through Strength for everyone but Ukraine apparently

Well done Biden, The Russian vloggers {Jeet Heer} are with us. Thanks for the weapons.

Putin will not stop until he’s taken all of Ukraine, and then he’ll start on the next neighbor. He will have to die to be stopped, there is no negotiating with him.

WTH is the nation talking about?! Didn’t we just approve of Ukraine using those weapons? It’s up to them to decide if using them is worth it.

No that's only true for america it isn't true for other countries

I’m skeptical about Ukraine keeping those arms well maintained and in a secure place. More likely, over time those arms are sold off in the “under the table” market. If it happens in western 1st world countries. It will definitely happen in a East European country that has a history of corruption 🤷‍♂️

There is something profoundly stupid about the idea that the appropriate way to prepare for negotiation is to give up all your leverage. Yet is forever being put forward as if it were God's own truth by people who want the recipient of the advice to fail.

if Ukraine wants weapons and authorization to use it they should get it and it is now or never, i don't know why a lot of foreign policy decisions have been made but a bunch of people outside the foreign policy establishment are even worse

Useful Idiots! 🤯

The Nation has always been tankie.

This is him from 2017

Yes, but also this should have happened like two years ago.

…or a nuclear holocaust

Jeet Heer. Nope.

We must allow the nation of Ukraine to access more and better tech and weapons.

It is also interesting how the pacifists of the United States, have been marginalized. The left's peace activists didnt vote, they dont matter. The right is in a party full of neoconservatives & behind a supposed strongman. Who just happens to have a faction behind him that DOES support Ukraine.

War is fundamental to human history. Its a fact. And this russo-Ukrainian war pits two spheres of governmental structures. One autocratic, the other democracy. It means a lot to the western people. Win is basically a surrender of the main "leader" of russia. The one who started this war.