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And the truth isn't so polished. So prim & proper.

I read this interview this morning. As a women it was hard to get through. Couldn’t relate to one of these men.

FFS guys need to police guys. Women are clearly out of our league.

Gish gallops work

I wouldn’t call it a challenge. The media seems perfectly happy granting unearned credibility to grifters and morons.

"Truthiness"

Jesus H. Christ.

*chuds (darned autocorrect)

That's a pretty dry take, but not as dry as Ben Shapiro's wife.

Ben Fucking Shapiro!!! What the hell has happened to us

‘White, Republican, attorney’ made me flinch.

Ben Shapiro is the dumb person's idea of a smart person. Burn it all down.

Any idea where a bunch of middle-aged guys got the idea that Ben Shapiro was an important voice to listen to? Was there a group that spent the better part of the decade providing him outlets and respectability?

No facts, ma’am, just vibes.

Cool gonna need you to show me where in the party platform we talk to men, will wait. Hint we don’t, we talked to women, we talked to young folks, we talked to lgbt, we did not have anything for just men. Now let’s hear but they had their zoom call…tip, I’m not the only one saying the Dems have an

Some we just won’t ever get and I admit that, yet many we can, without forgoing our base we already speak to and for. Either we are the big tent that welcomes everyone within reason or we aren’t.

Dim-witted racist says what?

Confirmation bias at its best. "He's an attorney by training", said the Republican attorney.

He is a sophist, nothing more. He doesnt deal in actual facts, rather cherry picked ones. He is a one dimensional thinker, never considering any order of effects.

THE BELLY OF THE BEAST? Like when a fucking gishgallops and nutpicks the most reactionary teens and young adults who don't represent the issues well at all so he can look good "Destroying" them? And lmfao Jesus Christ, these people are entirely vibes based. "An Aura of credibility" 😐 Just. Idk.

PhD in English, here. I've never heard Ben Shapiro make a single logical argument that works without subscribing to one set of untenable & illogical biases or another. Whomever wrote that blurb is a shill.

Also: The entire description of that poster

I almost feel sorry for this person

Is this another Patrick Healy special?

I cannot think of a less masculine thing than to listen to what a bunch of podcast bros say about how to be a man.

When your son gets confused about how to approach a girl he likes tell him "Don't say anything you wouldn't want your cellmate to say to you."

These fellows were mostly raised by women from the 2nd Women's movement. Concepts like equal opportunity in male dominated jobs, no fault divorce, concept of date rape and NO means No. Understanding sexual harassment. (not a full list.) Response: Rohypnol.

Great quiz show idea: @nytimes.com or @nytpitchbot.bsky.social?

I wrote to the NYT; Why not; 'Men Who Backed Trump and Men Who Did Not Back Trump Grapple With America' side by side in the piece? . . . In such a close election (only a 1.5% margin) we should hear at LEAST as much from the opposition, if not more.

I looked at it even more closely..... Did Trump pay for this piece? It looks like Dems and Reps were screened for their Trump support.

The only time I would support both siderism, is if these kind of pieces presented the counter argument to each of these opinions ... pro Trump Rep, and anti-Trump (or pro-Harris Dem..... side by side. This is like "You have to listen to those with whom you vehemently disagree & can't talk back!"

these guys seem to spout BS as their basis for their opinion. E.G., “Inflation is out of control, because every year things cost more.” That has been true since the Great Depression. And the Great Depression was a lot worse. Gangs have been in Chicago for decades before I was born. What garbage.

I don't think I can do this...pls send notes.

“The belly of the beast” is literally a few random kids with time to kill between classes.

Transactionalizing trust.

It is amazing that anyone hears Ben Shapiro's voice and thinks "yeah, I'd like to hear this sound again and again!" It's like listening to a leaf blower with an unlubricated engine, only whiny.

I feel like I read dozens of these “voter roundtables” during the campaign, and they were only ever with Trump voters, undecideds who didn’t like Biden, or Dems who were considering not voting at all. Couldn’t bring myself to read this one. I feel like I’ve heard their point of view plenty.

Lyle Lanley. He’s quick on his feet. He’s a monorail magnate by training. He goes into city councils meetings—into the belly of the beast. He’s very data driven, has the facts, well researched, just gives you an aura of credibility.

The only "beast" Ben Shapiro has ever been in the belly of is the mother who birthed him.

Bang on. We now live in a world where at best, a rough, vaguely approximate “semblance” of truth passes for the real thing; all while countering a blizzard of “alternate facts.”

I'm just here for all the auras. I'm very well informed.

It’s disturbing that there are now fifty shades of truth. . . The first philosophers settled the question by kicking a rock. There’s fundamental, empirical, immutable fact that will kill you if you try to deny its validity in any degree.

I always read these NYT focus group pieces because I need to understand whyyyy???, but I always end up frustrated and a little alarmed.

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Really? I’d say “Tennessee, white, Republican, attorney” was probably the more definitive phrase.

An “aura” of credibility. Wow

Patrick Healy can't get enough of what other guys think. He's really tuned in...to his own cohort. The word "trust" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in this. More like "confirmation bias."

This is almost 20 years old now.

Concepts of a credibility.

that entire paragraph is 90% of what's wrong with this country

It used to be, if you can fake authenticity, you've got it made. Now it's if you can fake reliability, you win. The lies circle the earth before the truth puts its pants on. And so it goes.

Ben Shapiro.... makes things up, has no political or policy experience, never really worked as a lawyer, debates people half his age, doesn't interact well with actual experts and never debates them... yeah....'aura'.

He's credible cuz everything he says they already agree with.

Ben Shapiro couldn't hack it in actual law practice so he started a "consultancy" firm.

I take it from that quote one doesn't want to read this after eating.

you know, when I think of credibility, I think of a 41-year-old failed screenwriter who only debates college kids. That's someone I can trust.

Anyone think they’ll do a chat with 12 women who voted for Harris?

Phil, why isn't there a beat at legacy outlets that focuses on the hundreds of millions spent over decades to generate the "aura of credibility" around people like Shapiro while in the same breath attacking all forms of accountability journalism? www.publicenlightenment.com/p/introducin...

Ah yes, also known as reputational quotient, the thing tech companies have been using to swindle us for decades. Yay.

The fact that Matthew, 43, is from Tennessee and felt the need to put "White" in his bio tells you everything you need to know about Ben Shapiro's audience!

God help us! Critical thinking is dead.

I listen to podcasts that use professionals with expertise in the fields being covered: law, politics, and government. What did Ben Shapiro do before he became an opinion guy? Ten months at a law firm.

Absolutely.

And yet Jesse Watters has the coveted 8 pm slot.

"Aura of credibility." Stephen Colbert had a better name for it: "Truthiness."

some men will pretend to believe anything rather than go to therapy

Disneys unintended sequel to three me and a baby turns out to be four men and a basement.

Truthiness?

You're almost there, Matthew.

Yeah, we're screwed.

Nailed it!

This. I haven’t watched him extensively but he just does not come across to me as intelligent.

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He hangs around colleges a little too much.

Ben Shapiro is gaslighting incarnate.

More like an aroma of bullshit if you ask me.

I found that article to be very informative. Good questions and thoughtful answers.

Shapiro talks fast, uses a ton of logical fallacies to convince you he’s intelligent and has the facts.

Shorter Matthew: I like his Gish Gallops

What else did he learn?

I don't think that's just the media's current challenge, but humanity's at large The trust/truth apocalypse is upon us

What I'm trying to point out is, at the end of the day what caused the Trump disaster was NOT issues like "Kamala Harris ran a bad campaign". Rather, it's the cumulative effect of decades of the voters themselves becoming progressively more and more ignorant. "It's the stupid voters, stupid."