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“I debated Mehdi Hasan and got fired for it” is going to turn into a viable grift for several of these fascist douchebags. This is why you don’t platform fascists.

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It’s not just this one GFM though. Platforming them gives their views more weight and gets more eyes on them. It might generate sympathy which turns into support. Doing it for the lolz (or the Zeteo subscriber count) is either incredibly narcissistic, short sighted, or both.

I’d rather they not be platformed so their ideas aren’t given weight by anyone. You can’t control what/how people will react to fascist ideology. Why give them a bullhorn? If you want to “shun” them, why not ignore them from the outset as opposed to this constant back and forth? Attention = power

One of the top donors on that fundraiser is named Elijah Schaffer. That’s the same name as the right-wing pundit who was inside Pelosi’s office on J6 and who got fired from BlazeTV for allegedly sexually assaulting a woman he worked with. Might just be a coincidence, but 🤔🤔🤔

Hasan says he was tricked and didn’t know he was going to be debating actual fascists, but he’s still promoting the hell out of the video and acting like he claimed victory over a bunch of irl Pepe the frog memes.

I feel like this is turning into the theme for these videos. The person "surrounded" gets mislead about the composition of the people around them because looney toons make for funnier videos.

okay, but irl pepe the frog memes are very clearly the actual threat? tim pool is literally in the white house press pool... "don't engage with nazis because you're just platforming them" is nice in theory, and would make sense if they were still on the fringes of 4chan/8chan. but it's not the case.

I'm getting really sick of these takes, because where are alternatives on how we actually reach these audiences, then??? it's been over a decade now of young men being radicalized by youtubers and podcasters and it should be SO fucking obvious by now that "just ignore them" DOES NOT WORK.

Fundraiser is over $10k now btw. Comments in the donations are a mix of 4chan jokes, blessings and prayers (esp from Catholics), and racism and antisemitism

I put most of the blame for this on Jubilee btw, but I’m still pretty annoyed to see Mehdi Hasan using this to pump up his subscriber numbers and talking about how he picked apart these clowns.

Part of me - totally here for it. Another part of me - why do these chucklefucks get airtime and actually reasonable people don’t? This isn’t a good idea. The fist part of me - I don’t know man, look at the White House, it’s time to try everything to see what sticks. And Hasan was sick as hell.

I watched the video of Mehdi debating this group of young people. I was appalled hearing their twisted and uninformed views. They defended Nazis, we’re fine with ignoring the constitution. They thought autocracy was just fine. Mehdi’s facts and logic didn’t budge them.

Unscrew your brain. He didn’t platform anybody. He verbally assassinated them. One was even so stupid that he declared himself to be a fascist and he lost his job. Platforming is a term for weak people. Exposing is a term for journalism.

Im kinda more happy that a company was forced to fire a despicable bigot than i am unsurprised and still disappointed that there are other despicable bigots that’ll donate to a gofundme

That's the part that doesn't have me convinced this is all bad. They have to keep sharing money around with each other because they get booted from society. Eventually, you see them melting down on YouTube because money can't buy happiness, friendship or purpose.

Hate to be a buzzkill, but the far right has a lot of very wealthy benefactors. There’s no shortage of money to throw around at these fundraisers. Multiple people have donated over $1000 to this fundraiser

I'm aware of that. Those people had no humanity to lose, or they wouldn't be that wealthy. The idiots that lose their job and get on wingnut welfare join a cult that doesn't care about them and makes it clear they don't other than to "own the libs". Having money without working is far from nirvana.

Agreed, and thats my point about it completely not mattering that one guy got $20,000 cuz hateful people liked his hate. Thats gunna happen, but now we’ve actually had a public confrontation about it. Im not really a fan of the stupid jubilee format, but blaming mehdi for doing it seems dumb to me

They're all grifters, Trump is the poster boy they all aspire to be. He got fired for being an ahole and a fascist. We shouldn't be giving this guy a second thought.