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If you search "Jemima" on here you can see hordes of people screaming that she's a Nazi, and even some trying to carry out amateur genealogy on her family tree, all for saying that their preferred social media platform isn't a perfect utopia. Wild! (2/11)

The strangest thing is that people seem to be angry about several things she didn't argue: 1. That Nazis should be allowed on BlueSky 2. That X remains better than Bluesky (3/11)

I don't think #1 really needs explaining, but on #2: she actually concluded that a theoretical digital town square (which no longer exists precisely because of Elon) would be preferable to all these little walled gardens. Maybe this should’ve been more explicit given widespread confusion! (4/11)

A big irony here is that Elon and his minions have actually dunked on Jemima for a past column (presciently!) saying that he has turned twitter into a dying platform! (5/11)

I'm one of those Brits that has moved across in earnest in the past six weeks. It's nice over here, I wish it had more people who engage with financial journalism, but hopefully that will come. But Jemima has a point on the echo chamber, particularly i/r/t the glorification of block lists. (7/11)

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I saw someone last night accuse Jemima of being a "crypto booster". This seemed odd given how lots of the crypto community despise her for critical columns, such as the one screenshotted below. I then realised that people had erroneously labelled her a crypto promoter in various block lists (8/11)

It's great to have tools to better block abusive folk and this is obviously developing in response to what a cesspit Elon's X has become. But if you're blocking people not even for what they believe, but what you mistakenly think they believe, then that's not great! (9/11)

Above all, Jemima's politics aren't easy to categorise. She's probably left of some of her critics on many issues, thought not on others. If you're trying to infer a British person's beliefs from a photo from a reporting trip to Mar-a-Lago you're doing it wrong. (10/11)

My first thought on seeing that picture was a question: is this a person of privilege showing off her new overpriced merch acquisition, or is it someone who feels she is in enemy territory, and is counting coup?

For a platform whose dedicated users like to promote this as a civilised alternative to The Other Place (or sometimes more cringely The Bad Place) the rage all seems a bit, well, uncivil. Anyway, I look forward to the Montagnard Convention putting my name on various blocklists now I guess! (11/11)

90+% of the time when someone says “[X’s] politics aren’t easy to categorize” they’re talking about like Mark Robinson, so you’re really doing a bang up job arguing she’s not a nazi

Is she or is she not “gender critical” (i.e. transphobic) On this site that’s going to matter a hell of a lot more than if she agrees with the majority on nearly any other “issue”.

I don't give a shit about her politics. She made a stupid post with a bad story and got some criticism for it, and now she wants to act aggrieved, with your help. Thin skinned reporters circling the wagons for each other isn't new but it is tiresome.

Just stop it. You made 11 posts about this to arrive at "her politics aren't easy to categorize". It's unsurprising you would find no problem with the politics of someone you work with, that doesn't make things confusing for us looking at her posts and articles. You got your attention. Now fuck off.

This is deeply unserious. If an American went to a N. Farage function or a meeting of Reform and just had to get a picture in a Reform T-Shirt it would be pretty easy for a U K. Citizen to understand where that person falls on the political spectrum.

No, he views are easy to characterize, it is just uncomfortable to you because you like her. She is a Nazi curious dilettante who knows that the Nazis coming into power won't affect her personally.

Why do you want me to listen to people I don't want to hear? I am happy for the people who see my posts have consented. If anyone doesn't like my opinion, feel free to mute or block as you wish.

I don't block people for what they believe. I block people for being annoying or threatening. I am not required to sift through annoying or threatening posts. There is no way my life is improved by annoyance & threats. Also: nobody has the right to be annoying or threatening in my general direction.

I disagree with just about everything here, but I'll agree that the labeling feature does have some scary potential if someone gets mislabeled. I would absolutely hate to be stuck with a label I feel doesn't apply to me, leading to rejection from broad swathes of the community.

Ideally, I'll never say or do anything that results in that happening, but miscommunication and snap judgments can happen. If people aren't strict about how to apply the label then it can get dicey.

My dude, I will block people for whatever stupid (or valid) reason I so desire, and I neither need nor want anyone's approval. Its my social media experience, not a round table panel discussion on CBS or whatever.

I'd argue both parties benefit from getting blocked by people who are quick to block off lists. A) the quick blockers get the type of social media they want B) the block listed person doesn't have to deal with the type of people who block off lists Less strife all around.

This. I’ve seen eminent voices on UK Equality law [offering objective commentary] placed on generic ‘anti-trans’ blocklists simply for stating the law as it stands in respect to definition of protected characteristics etc. Blocking simply hinders understanding of the legal complexities involved.

I appear on some of those blocklists for following certain legal commentators despite not posting anything about equality issues myself. It was my honours dissertation subject so retain an interest but certainly not qualified to opine on it.

It is great, actually. They don't need to have you in their business yelling at them about what you think they believe, and you don't have to be reminded of them ever again & can go on about your life. Not everyone at a party has to become besties, we can ignore one another and it's for the best

Please don't trivialize the weaknesses of online discourse. You can't just expect people to, in masses, wholly understand and respond to a news piece in place of face-to-face conversation. There's no body language, no inflection, no commitment, no facial feedback, and so, so much social pressure.

The assumption that people even need to block at this irrelevant. Most "Nazi's", "extremism", "intolerance", etc tends to be reported and Bluesky Moderation Service applies a label to the users account, that if any other user sets to hide, they NEVER have to see. This is why I'm a fan of labellers.

Maybe those reporting on the use of block should look at the other available tools on Bluesky and expand on their written material. My feed is clear of almost every label on Bluesky Moderation and I now avoid political content, because frankly, you'll always get individuals disputing.

Have you considered that some of us simply don't want to see propaganda disguised as opinion? Having an opt-in model for trusted sources is what I'm here for. Short of exclusively relying on scientific journals, this is a good way to hear what else is going on without a firehouse of falsehoods.

Bigger accounts gace out advice that for Bluesky - one should follow more accounts and then block more freely to get a better experience because of lack of algorithm. Maybe that advice needs to be revisited and people should be less trigger happy with block button.

I will block whoever the fuck I want for whatever the fuck reason I want. Today might be "I Think You're A Nazi" Day. Tomorrow might be "I Think You're A Transphobe" Day. The next day might be "You Posted A Selfie Wearing A Yellow Shirt" Day. I'll do what the fuck I want.

I'll block whomever I wish to block, thank you very much. You have a right to free speech, not a right to force others to listen! I mean, what more do you want??? Y'all ran us off twitter, and now you want to takeover blusky, too?

it is great. if I was sitting at a cafe and overheard somebody loudly saying some dumb stuff I didn't like, I might just pop my headphones in and drown 'em out. and perhaps if I saw them next time I came in, I might get my coffee to go or sit outside. ideal feature to be able to do that online too

absolutely no reason to keep listening to this total stranger to see if my initial interpretation was wrong, or lean over to ask them to clarify. it's actually weird to even suggest I *should* do that. I'm just gonna pop on the ol' noise cancellers and move on so I can enjoy my morning

So you're arguing not for a right to speak, but for a right to force people to listen. Bluesky is as much of an echo chamber as you make it. There are plenty of conservative voices here. What there aren't many of are trolls, and that's because Bluesky recognizes no right to force people to listen.

A lot of British people on the left like me moved here over a year ago when it became clear how deeply Musk was going to impose his ideological position. We live in very different worlds in the same country.

I do not feel obliged to engage with anyone I don't want to engage with, and in the same way that I will put on my noise cancelling headphones for some lairy man at a bus stop, I will do the digital equivalent here. I already live in a world full of sexist right-wingers, thanks.

Anyhow, nobody is going to subscribe to your website for posh cunts by shaming us into, IDK, letting the Nazis back in our lives and conversations. We will just never take the Financial Times seriously. Not that I did before.

We're literally just going back to ignoring dickheads like you before Leon took over the other site you seem to think isn't fulla Nazis nobody wants to advertise to. Just talk like this in person and try not to get shouted at. It's not an echo chamber, you've just normalized being a fascist online.