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Israel has killed, in 12 months, 0.9% of a population that grows, on average, 2.3% in the same time. Weird kind of genocide where the population grows isn't it? 🤔

Both. But the assholes who supported him weren't enough on their own. If the Dems are going to defeat Trumpism they'll need a compelling economic policy for the middle and less fortunate with it, not abortion rights, as their centrepiece. IMO.

But God... They should have put up a better candidate. She never even had a primary after Biden dropped out. And she didn't try to... Oh fuck that. Can't even finish it. Idealized perfection was the enemy of democracy among other things.

This is literally the 1st time I seen that nickname

The average voter doesn’t care about genocide. It was inflation.

This. A million times this. Wouldn't be surprised if millions were dumped into various media outlets to convince halfwits that "both parties are evil". And people fell for it. Non-voters make me rage. So human rights don't matter? So a felon and insurrectionist POTUS doesn't MATTER?!!

this was a choice that Biden made and Harris ended up cosigning against the UN, ICC, and ICJ again the recommendations of people in his own state dept. and CIA against people literally setting themselves on fire to call for an end to America's support for Israel's blatantly genocidal ambitions

That was my impression, too. Very poorly informed young people who were incapable of understanding which candidate would help the underdogs.

I think that is ridiculous. Sounds very lefty/righty though.

Election after election it is obvious that faith is used to sway popular opinion. Much of history demonstrates that this trait most often culminates in theocracy just before the dissolution or reformat of that religion in the inevitable revolution.

@godpod.bsky.social Bingo.

Conspiracy theory much?

It is isn't it? It's entirely clear what was responsible for 10 million people not showing up.. these are absolutely biblical numbers, and nothing says biblical like Palestine

Biden is a Zionist who appears to be fine with the genocide of Palestinians. Targeting tents of Palestinians after reducing their homes to rubble is not Irael protecting itself. Neither is targeting hospitals, doctors, and children. Kamala Harris is also a Zionist and SARS2 minimizer.

Unfortunately I’ve heard several misogynistic women speak against women presidents, too. Those type consistently vote against their own best interests in an odd “pick me” fashion.

It is…not obvious to me. What point are you making?

Wait’ll they get a load of what’s coming. Genocide GOP is lining itself up as we speak. How do they not see this? Like, at all?

The Covid 2020 election had voters truly afraid of Trump. Living among death. No vaccines. Mail in voting easier everywhere.

LOT of young people were JAZZED to hate the Dems by The Young Turks. They have a huge following and are the left version of trumpers. A few months before the election they POURED grease on the fire of HATING Dems and HATING Kamala. AND Racism AND Misogyny YOUNG PEOPLE lost it, many Young Turk ppl.

I had a Harris sign on back of my car. I was constantly tail gated every one of the nut jobs would yell something “fuck that bigger bitch” I had proud boy wanna be follow me into public spaces cuz just wanna know why a white guyp have a her sign. It was never about policy or qualifications

Black + Asian + woman + pro-Israel + not enough support of Israel (“anti-semite”) + pro TQ + (SCOTUS 2010 Citizens United v FEC + July 1, 2024 The Orange Slug v US rulings) + (Joe Rogan The Orange Slug + Muskovich interviews) + GOP voter suppression + circumvention of primary voters wishes = -1.5%

In less then a 100 days was incredible difficult to get her where she needed. I blame Biden for don't stepped a side on time.

I can't believe I'm still reading this stuff in 2024. No. If they embraced progressive policies, she would have won. It was never misogyny any more than it was racism, and those are just two deeply held American believe that MAGA tapped into in 2008. And still, could have won with M4A.

Cast system thrives and knows no political party, IMHO that's why they didn't vote, because rightfully so, they couldn't vote for the #OrangeFelon You nailed it sir 👍🏽🫡

I agree 100%. A black man has been president, perhaps a white woman could have been elected, but not both. I would have expected this more from the right, but apparently we have a lot of sexist and racist people in both parties.

Biden’s failure to step aside sooner given his obvious problems communicating also cost us votes. She had a very high heel to climb.

I do think that that has a lot to do with it. I read that only 13% of Republicans think of women should be president and only 75% of the electorate. Those are great odds we are a very backward country.

certainly some of it, but not all or we wouldn't have lost the house and the senate too

Wow - really drew the trolls with this point. Must be something they'd rather keep us confused over.

Polling said Kamala was doing pretty well after the debate. Her momentum dissipated when she couldn’t deliver a coherent message about how she would be different to Biden. If you have an unpopular incumbent who’s a shambling corpse then maybe you should hold a primary?

2016: Centrist woman loses to Trump. 2020: Centrist man wins against Trump. 2024: Centrist woman loses to Trump.

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100%. I don’t know enough about Gavin Newsom to form an opinion, but from the few clips I’ve seen of him, coupled with him being a “white, straight American”, he’d have probably gotten it over the line.

Absolutely what I think.

The saddest part is that every single one of them are online, with the Internet at their fingertips and perfectly capable of finding out exactly where non partisan Fact Checking is. Or where they could research the truth. But they just couldn't be bothered. All you had to do was Google Is this True

He's talking about all the people who stayed home because Biden didn't stop the IDF attacks in Gaza or, at the least, refuse to send any more weapons to Israel.

There were two possible outcome of the election; one much worse than the other. And non-voters/thirds party voters enabled a Trump fascist dictatorship. Gaza isn’t going to change for the better under Trump. Yes, the Dems were far from perfect but a Trump dictatorship will be devastating.

Then say it. Why did they stay home?

What are you on about?

I don’t think anyone won, actually. 😭

Liberals: "It's a shame Trump won but at least the genocide will get worse."

We were hoping the pressure would change the white house's priorities

haven’t seen that trend in a while… what are those folks talking about now?

No, Biden was trying to negotiate a cease fire. Trump wants to kill Palestinians. That's WHY Bibi wanted Trump. You did what Bibi wanted you to do. You were DUPED.

X was, just X! never saw that on Facebook. You should see us natives go after them when they bring their racism to us. None of their talking points work with us! Go home! You moving back home, FINALLY? Or am i moving in with you? We confuse them.

Disinformation has been cited as the biggest cause for Trump's disproportionate win.

… on account of his genocide

Lol 😆

You can't claim the moral high ground and claim the other guy is too evil while being complicit in genocide and breaching international law 🤷

So cute Americans think it's because of genocide or some higher thought process. NO it was woman against degenerate man and man won as always. That's America for you.

I think too many dems are purists at this point unfortunately. We’re content to let the entire country slide off a cliff because we can’t stop yet another foreign war. Next time it will be something else, maybe the new nominee has a tweet from 22 years ago that gets twisted into pro-police language.

Yes they made a moral stand for the people of Palestine, who are now in a worse position because of them. As are the minorities, women and LGBT+ communities they claim to be "allies" of. But they'll be fine, because they are white and live in Blue states protected by the Democrats they spit on.

He didn't even raise the issue in his speeches. Nothing to counter Musk buying and destroying the status quo for social media news dissemination, no legislation proposals, no talking points no ads. Silence as the right reframed the truth.

Bingo!

It was literally a Russian psy op.

Look to Romania to understand what really happened.....

I don’t believe that support of Ukraine harmed Harris with a lot of potential Democratic voters but do believe $ support of Israel influenced some younger ones. I believe misogyny was a big factor. I personally know some men who didn’t vote at all because of it & likely some women opted out, too.

Maybe he should have stopped arming a genocide.

I wonder how many of these 'genocide joe' comments were coming from very clever Russians working to get Trump elected so the US would withdraw support for Ukraine? There were many professionally done YT vids that exaggerated inflation, trans issues, and Biden's foreign policy b4 the election.

Yep Dearborn and others is the result of the constant "Genocide Joe" and "Killer Kamla" chants. And here we are. Also Russians amplified this situation. And Musk PAC sent opposing messages to Jews and Muslims of Kamla supporting the other side. The result, they stayed home or voted down ballot

Exactly!

Well, staying home sure fixed the genocide. Good Job.

Most people didn’t actually vote against democrats because of Israel. More people didn’t turn out because of racism and misogyny. It’s exhausting when leftists tell me that if democrats just supported Jewish expulsion from the Middle East a little bit more, we could have peace.

Duped into seeing Biden fund and arm a genocide?

I think that did affect quite a few people but not enough to sway the election in most states. It was probably feeling disenfranchised by the Democrats not doing an open primary and then partnering with conservatives like Cheney. Progressives and youth were not very motivated to show up.

He’s been hammered since impeachment #1 - despicably Add to that non positive reinforcement of the amazing accomplishments while running against the winds of maga obstruction and media malfeasance

The genocide will now get far, far worse.

Its clear based on where the big donor money went this time around who the ruling class of this plutocracy wanted in office.

*cut to Trump and Netanyahu drawing lines on a map of the Gaza Strip*

I think if you go by the Numbers Palestine alone might have cost the Democrats the election. It was such a wedge issue for Arab and young Progressive voters.

The problem was not people saying, ‘genocide Joe’. The problem was those that did nothing to try to stop him from being, ‘genocide Joe’. That’s the hard truth.

God, it’s too bad most of the people didn’t stop to read the rest of your words. People really will never learn, will they? 😔

Republicans needed to fracture the vote and they succeeded. And democrats just had to stop bending the knee to Bibi. But they refused. Even as he was openly supporting TRUMP.

maybe enabling Israel genocide intentions was not a good idea.

The problem is that it's true. Nearly $18 billion in arms in just 1 year. Biden failed to stop the weapons. Is Donald worse? Yes, without question, but that doesn't absolve Joe for supporting a genocidal and frankly supremacist Israeli government.

And it was still stupid as hell because now you won't even have free election anymore so there is ZERO chance for Palestinian. At least with Democrats YOU would still have a free election.

This is real. I know people who didn’t vote for him because of this propaganda — only to learn after the election that it was all funded by Elon Musk.

Well before that it was "China Joe".

How many decades have we been promised expanded background checks on guns, more affordable housing, taxes on the rich, and expanded healthcare access? Have they ever given it to us in a serious, worthwhile form? No. They're the maintainers of the status quo and a LOT of Dems are sick of it.

Wait I'm confused I thought they stayed home because the country is just too racist and sexist to vote for Kamala Harris? That's what The View keeps telling me!

But do we really know that to be true? All the gerrymandering all the voter suppression everything that’s been going around. I’m surprised we even knew who win the night of the election that just doesn’t make sense to me.

Racism and misogyny. Full stop.

Racism and misogyny.

Unfortunately, it is a very real possibility that 10 million democrats decided not to go out and vote for a woman to be president

Im hoping the reason it’s so quiet while Musk/Trump team run their muck, is because they are working behind the scenes to secure a fail proof conviction of terrorism for them both. Musk is a propaganda machine and Trump is a power hungry tyrant that only wants admiration from the elite.

No thinking involved in bigotry

God only knows. Or not.

People are tired of the weak-kneed response Dems always give to Republican lies, bluster, and criminality. I, for one, am sick of the constant effort to reach across the isle or the fruitless attempt to understand Magas! Dems need to pushback--hard--and fight for us! Not their corporate doners!

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Or why MILLIONS MORE eligible voters never vote in a country with more than 330 million people.

Even as democrats, they would not vote for a woman.

Why?

Start here-"Florida... ES&S machines lost 18,000 votes..." www.propublica.org/article/the-... and investigators are troubled by who owns the company. www.dcreport.org/2020/12/31/e...

Votes didn't count?

Pretty much then.

Not sure that mattered.

Yes he paid 87k voters for their signatures and ran a “lottery” to get their info. Not sus at all!

I don't know the reason, myself, but I suspect they were not really Democrats.

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