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one important thing about the trans sports canard is it’s a trial balloon to see how chickenshit the opposition is. if we cave on that they’ll attack a less vulnerable group (already happening actually) and the whole coalition will get carved up one by one

Luke O'Neil@lukeoneil47.bsky.social

We cannot preemptively and "pragmatically" kick our more vulnerable allies off of the plane. The end result will be having to face the fascists later on anyway but with a significantly diminished coalition. www.welcometohellworld.com/dumping-weig...

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That's one possible solution. With a whole bunch of its own issues. The issue is somewhat complex with a bunch of blurry lines, made worse by being politicized. It would likely going to be solved eventually when the right questions pose themselves. It's not important enough to be pre-solved.

One way or the other. People were bitching and moaning about custom pronouns/genders/sexualities years ago. That issue also solved itself without the need of the decree from above.

Solidarity means we all win or we all lose, but in either case we do it together. Too many think “if I just sell out enough of my allies, maybe *I* can be safe”. Those people are assholes, and not to be trusted.

Also we will look weak because we will be weak, fighting amongst ourselves & devouring each other. Instead, we could stand together & direct our anger towards those objectively causing us harm: Say the unopposed power of a certain billionaire wilding through the federal coffers. Why is this hard???

to be clear trans people deserve basic human rights and dignity like anyone. but anyone who thinks they will be able to escape by throwing them under the bus, including white cis liberal men, has another thing coming

in the 1870s there was a bargain where white Northern liberals threw Black southerners to the wolves in return for white Southerners surrendering any chance at national power. that is not remotely possible now, the Muskjugend neo-Confederate/neo-Nazis are playing for all the marbles

The predatory aspect of this is worrisome, pick a group, any group as long as they can be demonized. Rs are skilled at demonizing anything and everything

I will say this…..I think the approach could have been fighting for their rights to access, as opposed to give them rights without public persuasion; and allow the right to attack. It’s akin to if local jurisdictions allowed gay marriage and then let RE media frame the debate

the reason why they carry on with the trans attacks is that they're successful in carving up their opposition they don't actually give a damn about trans people in any specific way, trans people are just a convenient "other" to blame "everything bad" on

The hyperbole in this argument is beyond belief. US voters overwhelmingly are uncomfortable with the idea of trans women competing with cis women. Many of those uncomfortable people are cis women. Yet people here are hiding behind false claims of what this means. And it helped re-elect trump.

Really disagree. This is about achieving trans rights which are human rights. The right has used trans athletes to distract attention from that and it has have been effective for them. Don't ask don't tell was a huge victory. The public saw gays in the military working. No point in excluding them.

I remember a movie like that, but the plane was already in the air when they needed to dump some weight. So they dumped the luggage and items from the galley. NOT the people.

Ryan Cooper is a moron. He is contributing just as much to the problem as those that would dehumanize trans people. DO NOT LISTEN TO PEOPLE LIKE “RYAN COOPER”. DISTRACTION

This argument sounds like the gun nuts who freak out about background checks. A tiny segment of people not being able to play in the specific league they desire is not worth this. It's not that they *can't* play sports, it's specific leagues. It's a dumb hill to die on.

The real trial balloon- We were put into a Constitutional Crisis 1/6/20 when T had Barr write an OLC Memo derailing the human right of equal protection of law for 170 million women & Democrats didn't say a word - Biden had 4 years to publish an updated Constitution with the Equal Rights Amendment

Even if the gutless worms who call themselves "pragmatic progressives" can't be right on moral grounds, you'd think they could at least hit "enlightened self interest" once in a while

Cowering in the face of the women’s sports attack, when the attack comes from people who hate hate hate women’s sports, is the weakest shit imaginable.