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people are always saying anti-AI arguments don’t understand the full nuances of the technology. which is correct. but only because it stole everyone’s work, exists solely to get you fired, has made the entire internet unusable and has been forced on everyone without consent

it's the same reaction we had to nfts. suddenly I had to know what the word fungible and blockchain meant because a bunch of weirdos decided it was THE MOST IMPORTANT THING while not really being able to make an articulate case for it i just wish AI shit would flame out as quickly as those did

What I love about the "detailed research" whine is none of these guys understand, for example, what goes into actually constructing a massive building or just what the requirements of a 1.6GW gas plant that's supposedly going to power their fantasy building actually ARE.

Not to mention the fact that it completely obliterates any local economy near these data centers. These structures always bring down the value of properties nearby, which the only buyers of these properties will be data center companies.

This turns into a death loop for municipalities, since there will be fewer people living in the region over time. Business owners will move away from the region and likely take their businesses with them. Those who remain will eventually have to close up shop because nobody will be buying shit.

also. the thing people hate is not ‘the technology’ it is the tech industry. they hate move fast and break things. they hate having everything they say tracked and processed while companies do whatever they want. they hate every single ideological value that animates silicon valley

There is also plenty to hate about 'the technology' tbf. The theft and plagiarism of peoples work, churning out bullshit and its vast energy and water requirements all come to mind. What are its good points?

The "technology" is just the underlying math. That's fine, and could be useful. The stuff you're describing is the way the companies pushing this chose to go about it. They could have done this ethically, but they all believe they're in a race to be the last company on earth.

Not to mention the fact that everyone hates the fact that the technology itself is responsible for countless deaths, either through coercion or militaries using it in place of analysts. The United States almost started a damn war with China just over a damn hallucination over some cargo recently!

The United States started a war by targeting a girls school because, in part, it was nobody's job to verify the targeting data being coughed up. The nightmare scenario has already arrived and people have just kinda shrugged.

Pretty annoying how out of all these nuances discussions some dullards have especially from the left leaning or left wing ones they seem not to fucking care at all that this has pretty much destroyed the electronics market and barely anyone can afford new PC's and phones now

Exactly! Why do these folks expect a “rational response” to be to look at this thing that has tangibly made their life worse and more expensive, and go “we SHOULD start weighing the benefits” like fuck no! That conversation can’t logically happen right now

Hatred, dismissal and derision of AI *is* the rational response at this point.

There may be benefits, but it's just so minuscule in comparison to the massive slew of deficits caused by this technology, one that I should add isn't even completely developed.

And anyone who has more smoke for “people being annoying about being anti AI” are doing that thing where they’re feeling mildly irritated at what is honestly a very normal emotional response to the scale of this shit, and somehow going “yeah the irritated ppl are at fault here” like what

The entire industry has changed user prompts from 'Yes/No' to 'Yes/Maybe Later' and it's just a poignant micro example of the direction the industry has taken towards pushing everything upon users whether they want it or not, whether it's useful or not, whether it's functional, safe, or even harmful

We have to wait years lireral decades to get new subway station or line or just a new supermarket to be built while AI companies are Luke "yeah we're building big noisy data centre this summer across the street from your local elementary school trust us the pamxt will be minimal"

As it turns out “your complaints don’t matter, it’s happening if you like it or not” was not an argument to make people receptive to the product

It’s also cray because the tech guys are coming at us with a combination of rape talk, negging, being high as kites, apolcolypse, I mean so little of what they are saying is rational or logical so why is the burden on us? Sick of all of this privatize profit but socialize responsibility and cost.