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This thread is reminding me that the cause and effect of terrible politics and low productivity in rural areas is backwards from what most pundits (left and right) say it is - these places have bad economics because they have driven every creative and intelligent person out.

Oh, so the cool ones went to Hawaii? And the uptight Europeans came to the east coast? And colonized them, never mind.

On a more contemporary and less wholesome note, I have heard a few ex-members of the FARC or paramilitares tell me in essence "I grew up in a tiny village and my mother was constantly hounding me, so when the recruiter came around promising me a salary and a way out of (t)her(e) I joined".

In my heart I want there to be a direct connection between Hawaii and Aotearoa, but I guess jury’s still out If the origin was somewhere but separate waves to either Or if they went to Hawaii first then pulled a U-ey back to NZ similarities tho are undeniable

Fwiw this has been and is still how a lot of people arrive in north america to this day

I get the sentiment, but that is definitely not how that happened. Also, I wonder why that is the example here, and why it is not some temper tantrum throwing Puritan child getting away from Europe.

Current consensus is that there were waves of migration by sea over tens of thousands of years before and after the “land bridge.” Curiosity about what’s on the next island, familiar to all paddlers, was probably the main driving force

“Dad, I have HAD it with your incessant urge to shit all over my flint-knapping technique, and Grandpa did NOT do it better: I’m leaving all you assholes behind on the shores of Lake Tanganyika and dispersing the hell out of Africa.”

Doing linguistic drift to the language I speak so that if my relatives show up in a few hundred years, I will no longer be able to understand what they are saying

One of my Norwegian great grandfathers changed their surname when they arrived in America. Not an uncommon practice I later found out. They did not want to be found 😂

It's certainly a level of how I arrived in North America.

I'd read a complete story of the human race in this vibe

Omg so much this. The cradle of civilization got rocked a whole lot.

"Nobody needs to see a fancy new Mammoth spearing technique, Dear." Just keep doing it the way your Grandad did it, It's the way his Grandad showed him. Our family spear Mammoths the way Mammoths are meant to be speared. Don't embarass us Dear.

TFW the great migrations were just people going non-contact across the world.

Boomers: "Well, uh, in my day you had to learn to read the waves and observe the flight of birds. You kids today, all you have to do is hit 'block contact'!"

My brother the chief, sometimes - Island expeditions by the losing side of succession disputes

See now I'm trying to gauge how annoyed you'd have to be to go find Australia and then decide you were good to stay put.

I bet it was a lot of walking types. Guys and gals who like to take a nice walk you know. They get addicted to it and the next thing you know they’re in Kamchatka thinking about the sea

Captain Nemo took it a step further and figured out how to make cheese from the milk of marine mammals, which means that he and his crew were milking marine mammals. (tbf they censored the backstory that he was a Polish noble whose family was killed by the Russians, so he hated all other families)

I hope she was happy

my family is great! but yeah, a lot of families, not so much

I’ve been doing Duolingo, and sometimes in my practice conversations, it will ask me if I would want to live in the past, and I’m like, I’m a woman, so no.

“We’re going to live in an unheated hole in the ground instead of by family!” “I got some rice paper for the hole in the wall. Now it’s a real window!” “I’m going to tie straw in knots to burn since we can’t afford coal.” And she was putting a shine on it 😟

His parents, what little we see of them in the first book, seem very nice. But it's weird how little contact they have with family when they seemed quite close in the first book. I didn't clock until later that the cousins are *double* cousins, so quite close relatives.

yes but i don’t think the artist is making them anymore :(

Yes!

A bad dad is a classic reason people joined the army or became a sailor.

I never really thought about it that way, but yeah, maybe going on a boat facing the high likelihood of death was just preferable to being home with your parents.

I might not strike it rich in California but even if this gold rush doesn't pan out at least I'll have the Rockies between me and my parents.