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i think the 2005-2015 era open source boom was built on a nice job environment where people had a little free time and employers believed in creativity the free time dried up, everyone burned out, 2015-2025 open source has been explicitly targeted toward getting funding & making money. what's next?

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It's really hard to see what the way forward is. Because imo the new baseline for software is always available, connected systems. How open source can meaningfully deliver that to the world, who doesn't necessarily want to run their own services, is a large question.

The #MalleableSoftware folk I think are onto something here, that it's not just manufactured product to lever open the future, but open ended experiences. Amplifying / augmenting will, engendering the sense of exploration & possibility.

People don't want to run their own services, but they run their own network printers, their own routers and DHCP servers, etc... They don't even realize it. Some run their own network storage. I think people could run their own services if it were as easy as plug and play. That's where the work is.

100%! And I have *so* much hope here. It's daunting to wade into serving. But so many folks do already! And its so early in the timeline, so little such scrappy attempts to operationalize computing aimed at anything other than industry! The situation will improve! bsky.app/profile/jaun...

JauntyWunderKind@jauntywunderkind.bsky.social

This is hugely hopeful to me, that the abundant computing in the world will be something that some day everyday people don't need to be so afraid of, That operationalization will advance & be better able to communicate itself,

I think JS/TS frameworks went off in the wrong direction, making web development complex and such a costly investment that it pushed the needle towards funding and paying for the work. I've been looking at #NueJS lately for a full rethink of this: puts things in perspective. nuejs.org/docs/why-nue

Missing from this thread (with a lot of comments about ZIRP) is increasing consolidation of control by platform vendors. Without antitrust in the US having teeth, and especially following the transition to phones and "trusted" devices, the kind of inversion of power that OSS can create dwindles.

More software that - technically isn't FLOSS, due to a freemium license - is FLOSS but isn't corporate-friendly due to branding (like the Anubis WAF), but which can be white-labeled for a price.

things are bleak at the moment! the influx of ZIRP funding created lots of opportunity, but also set an extremely high bar for quality that now acts as a barrier to entry and traps maintainers in a burnout cycle. traditional funding has dried up, vc model has largely failed.

corporate sponsorship trends are slightly hopeful, but i worry about some projects getting locked into relationships that are quietly anticompetitive in nature my hope is that the mutual aid sponsorship model of the 2020s matures into large scale community-driven funding w/ improved infra

The second era, of relicensing and of consolidation under mostly trade-association foundations (like the LF and its children), are a product of ZIRP ending and of post-Heartbleed organizing causing an influx of funding, mostly in the form of developer labor.

As for where we go next, we’re still in an extended period of weakening labor power, without a substantive labor organizing counterweight (the mostly PMC tech industry is systemically allergic to unionization). High interest rates also suggest weak supply of paid dev labor.

Having been in it, a lot of it was good citizenship - we use these projects, we maintain these others, contribute to some more, and it all works. Some freeloaders, some outsized contributors. When money flows less easily, there's just more pressure to be a freeloader and not a contributor...

I hope that collective models, like Igalia, can thrive next. Consultancies that have expertise in certain projects, are funded by companies that rely on them, and get paid for special efforts on specific work. It should be simpler than a company trying to maintain an OSS project on its own.

I'd guess a universe of small niche creative projects come next, where the goal is not scale but uniqueness the pendulum must swing back, and we have better tools than ever to enable it

Part of this is that doing open source *for the money* lost its taboo. It's wider than just OSS; sponsored content went from "what a sellout" to "get that bag" along the same time. I'm not sure of the cause <-> effect directionality here. My guess is it's more like an intertwined helix.

the state of long-term maintenance of open source is pretty bad and contributes to the churn of the ecosystem in general, very few people really want to and are able to spend that much time on side projects over the long term, and even fewer when the conditions on the ground deteriorate

I think burnout/ZIRP is only part of the story. the reward:effort ratio was much higher in 2005-2015 because there were fewer of us and there was more low-hanging fruit. today, almost the only problems left to solve are the ones thorny enough to require multiple full-time engineers

For better or worse, the complements of the web were successfully commodified. Linux won the datacenter, then open browser engines/ecosystems won the desktop, and now the process is playing out in AI (especially Chinese labs). Once it happens, the marginal opportunity in an N+1 project is low.

Increasingly capable AI agents ushering in the return of solo developer projects and small teams, but I know that's a very unpopular answer. bsky.app/profile/doll...

Doll@dollspace.gay

github.com/dollspace-ga... It has now reached a minimal functional level to the point it is satisfied in saying it is proof that AI coding can be used to build viable products. It will now be accepting human assistance if anyone wishes to help contribute ^_^