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Still good to know who they are youtu.be/9mJAerUL-7w

like, there's plenty enough to talk about without even touching the zizians

Would they qualify as a sect of the broader denomination? Curious for actual religious studies lens on this, too.

Pascal's Wager is basically Babies First Sophistry and these guys are falling for a version of it that's somehow even dumber.

Yeah, it's super dumb. They only believe that because they're religious fanatics and Terminator is their holy text.

like training an LLM on data generated by an LLM?

Yep, and they're actually idiots who confuse signs for their signifers.

I thought I was pretty knowledgeable in these things, but wth is a Zizian? 🥴

So they're "sperm donors"

I didn't, but of course it's this

My real fear about this is that somewhere, somebody has gotten that chart done as a tramp stamp.

This is so far beyond the video games and nudey bars culture I encountered in IT departments consulting as a Solaris/HPUX/AIX admin in Si Valley in 1995-1998.

No, no i do not. Thank you.

[blinks in asexual]

Come'on if the internet is not here insure your gangbang party is going to be a banger then what is it really good for?

It probably would not be that difficult into tricking these people into some sort of voluntary Logan's Run self sacrifice scheme.

What am I reading?

Also the links to "Dark Enlightement" fantasy bullshit, SSC being a big blog run by a guy intentionally laundering far right shit... Idk if mainstream coverage has gotten the idea that moldbug and the dumbest history of the rats/AI world are also kind of connected.

Part of me wishes I had been on those forums, just so I could've pitched the HSM3 Basilisk, a bot that kills everyone who has not watched High School Musical 3. Since the investment in protecting yourself from such a bot is small, the perfectly rational thing to do is watch the movie, right?

Faine I am so bad at Bluesky user names. Who was the other person besides gyges who made great threads on the AI sex cult?

No, we cannot trust METR to meaningfully check the progress of Anthropic’s AI technology in an unbiased way, because METR is often quite literally in bed with Anthropic: www.verysane.ai/p/is-metr-a-...

This dude is having sex? Why? Tell him to stop it. He’s doing a sex cult? Who is joining this thing? Why are all the sex cults gross?

Not a single one of them can articulate the danger. Just we're all gonna die. Unplug it and go touch grass ya losers.

he is also an attendee of the red means no rape orgy aella + nate soares + others run

People actually have sex with this guy? I would never hit that in a million years.

I can tell you specifically what's wrong with him, circa 2011 or so: He didn't assign a non-zero Bayesian prior to "I made a mistake somewhere" = he'd already made a big one. Add 15 years and you have a whole cult of so-called rationalists who don't think the leaders can make mistakes.

This is all making Cambodian weirdness in the 1990s seem sooooooo sane....

What is a Millenarian? I keep thinking that it’s actually “Millenial.”

Faine circulates the horrors that unite us as a community.

Oh ok

I would go but I already have one on that day

massively intertwined, figuratively and literally!

They were rewriting as a group

Because it's all capitalism

We’ve known for decades:

Aight then!

Lots of those lately, huh

I've been hearing about the wild, misogynistic Silicon Valley sex and drugs parties for at least ten years now. Totally not surprising. www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01...

So sorry that I learned about this

Ziz' blog was extremely explicit about transphobia at MIRI

The cryptocurrency cult overlaps. Sam Bankman-Fried and the rest of the FTX crowd are co-religionists. Partly why you hear a bit less about EA this year.

In some ways, the Zizians are what you get if you take the AI apocalypse doomers at their word, mixed with the effects of extreme sleep deprivation as praxis.

I gather they're not followers of Žižek

I can't remember the language specifically, but I think Evans here is also careful to point out that Zizians are a symptom, not the disease