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@emotionengine.rip

Guys... GUYS, listen. I am begging you all to think bigger! The Atmosphere may be a fun space to explore how familiar services and apps interact—but it's still just social media. The protocol enables us to change behaviors and solve *systemic* problems It's the thing that gets us TO the thing.

zeu@zeu.dev

this is why i love ya'll

I am thinking pretty big and agree with your thread here. Who do you think needs to hear this? How should it be explained? How can we help support you in what you’re doing with tracklist?

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Alexander Fortin

I don't know if it helps the discussion, I'm almost always frustrated when I see threads about some new cool feature in AT proto on, say, HN, and the discussion to soon gravitate towards Bluesky and its perceived shortcomings. AT is so much more than Bsky.app but somehow I seldom see that emerging.

@johann.tezoscommons.org

Speaking form personal experience it is just really hard to convince people to even try something that is not the default.

Alexander Fortin

Absolutely, e.g. I'm trying to convince my contacts to drop Whatsapp in favour of Signal and it's tough... but worth fighting for! My point though is that you can enjoy ATproto benefits even without using Bsky.app at all, imo it's something more transformative than "just another social network"

bsky.appBlueskySocial media as it should be. Find your community among millions of users, unleash your creativity, and have some fun again.

@johann.tezoscommons.org

What would that look like tho, one example? I have been trying to get people to see/use this with a custom bsky frontend for our particular community, and there we can have lots of features that are great for us and regular bsky users wouldn't care, and technical people get it

Yep. And nothing else has gotten to escape velocity of user adoption. Roundabout by New Public, with the Chicago launch may get there, but it won't really "read" as atproto either. I don't think HN is particularly relevant. There's a devrel / influencer discussion to be had perhaps.

@emotionengine.rip

Aside from devs? I believe AT Proto is nearing the stage where we need a platform with impact capital and grant funding. If the community events do not bring us together, then they’re failing to serve people like me at the expense of attending. Messaging across the board must take the gloves off

@emotionengine.rip

We won’t achieve anything by telling people that our version of the Web is safe and inclusive. Retreating to virtual spaces cannot be the only thing ATP offers. Nor should we continue deflecting demands with “you can build it yourself” —it’s condescending. We need messaging with teeth, awareness

Noooo please keep vulture capital off the Atmosphere. They do not like open protocols. They will always embrace, extend, extinguish. (Basically Meta's move with Threads and the Fediverse.)

@emotionengine.rip

I mean it’s already here mate- bsky partnered with Bain But I’m not calling for VC, anyway. I’m calling for partners who will take a risk on atproto projects built to change peoples lives. In the case of music, this means something that allows artists to make more money than they do on platforms

@emotionengine.rip

Which means not chasing endless growth and exits, but unlocking value in markets where creators aren’t earning enough of what’s going around

Ah, that makes more sense.

OK, I'm still not seeing how / what you're reacting to - I respect your PoV. Did you not like the announcement blog post? Or the placeholder conf website? Can you give me an example of messaging that would resonate for you?

@emotionengine.rip

I would be happy to organize this all into a more formal call to action. In fact, I’ve been writing a book about it already. But I can’t afford to volunteer those efforts without sponsorship—I’m hopeful that something like NewPublic will recognize my initiative. If there are others, let me know

As mentioned in the announce post, there is a co-operative being formed. It will likely have grant programs over time, and there will be a mix of paid and volunteer work to be done by members.

@emotionengine.rip

I’m reacting to an overall sentiment distilled into a meme that’s (nothing personal to who made it) got the whole thing backwards. And it’s reflective of AT/Atmosphere’s ability to like, take itself seriously. The protocol enables much more than making friends; I think that’s missing from comms

Welcome to decentralized ecosystems! There is no central theme or comms manager. I take this pretty intently (serious / playful are stances). One technique I use, is leading with joy. People are joining and building with us, because it's a fun crew. I think, absolutely, there's room for revolution