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There's nuance here about "how do we use platforms owned by the fascists". You *have to understand the political purpose of the platforms* in order to use them to subvert authoritarians. For the most part, Americans simply do not. Centrists (including DNC consultants) do not. Major media does not.

Kim Sherrell@web.kim

Key lessons from Brazil Amplify our people. Ignore the opposition. Use the tools owned by fascists to defeat the fascists? Meet the people where they are. May need to reconsider my staunch position of boycotting Meta for the reason. Thoughts?

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Here’s what’s happening on X/Twitter: it was fash central for a while, then Elon got the message that he couldn’t hold onto the sports-score and recipe-sharing people if they saw Nazis every time they skimmed their timelines. So he tuned the AI to silence the Nazis for people who aren’t Nazi fans …

… and so these people are still there and reachable and are convinced in many cases that “it’s not that bad.” Still doesn’t mean you can leverage X/Twitter to amplify progressive messages, however. The AI can just be tuned to suppress that content instead of broadcasting it.

We're seeing it right now in tech; a number of prominent tech commentators (all coincidentally happen to be wealthy & influential white men? huh!) have all just endorsed returning to Twitter again. But they weren't content to just _be there_ — they also insisted it's not a hostile environment.

So there's no self-awareness. They can't understand that they were targeted for outreach just as much as Black and trans people were targeted for abuse. Which makes it impossible for them to be part of using such a platform for political pushback, even if they don't think of themselves as fascists.

Is it possible to put out effective messages on hostile platforms? Sure! Zohran went on Fox and charmed them. But is a fash-apologist moderate gonna go on NewsMax and just... make things better through the pureness of his heart? (Which is apparently the centrist theory of change.) Demonstrably not.

Truthfully, one of the biggest challenges is hubris. *Everybody* thinks they're good at comms,everybody thinks they know exactly how to persuade people, virtually everyone has zero experience. Even fewer know how to do it online. And most resources go to the folks with almost no history of success.

Americans can't seem to understand that platforms can even HAVE purposes. They try to make every platform into the one and only place to be and consider it a failure if it doesn't become that. Even people here have that twisted idea!

This is so true. And so frustrating. I picture these folks going around putting in screws with a hammer.

This is true in my industry as well--Netflix/Hulu/HBO et all can't simply exist as an additional OPTION to YouTube. Only ONE of these can be the true Content Platform. Which is, of course, absurd and poisonous.

There's a difference between using fash-adjacent platforms to organize, and reaching fash-curious people on those platforms. If doing stuff through Elon's platform would actually lead to better outcomes I could be convinced to hold my nose. But I won't try to persuade anyone over there.

I mean, it depends. I think there are normies who are probably, still, there for like... sports scores. There may be some way to reach them amidst the noise. Is that worth the effort vs. the other ways to reach them? I would have to see some pretty convincing data.

As noted on here recently there's a huge contingent of ppl #onthere for int'l news who're not attuned (or justifiably jaded) re: the fascism of tech/western politics... i think the way to reach them is push 🦋 to be less US/UK/CA centric Brazil realtime 🦋 was on pt last nite so I feel there's hope

I think: continue the boycott until the conditions that caused it meaningfully change. Open source folk were pissed at Microsoft for a whole generation, and only let up after considerable turnover and consistent contribution.