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I can understand the anguish from losing someone you looked up to politically. What sits wrong with me now is that we see none of that from some of the same people whenever children are murdered in school. Maybe we all agree it should all end

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Anyone who saw the Charlie Kirk assassination video felt a gut-punch & a shock. Imagine if there were cameras in classrooms. IMAGINE if you saw DOZENS of small children getting ripped apart, screaming panic knowing they may be next, trembling with fear before being blasted AT POINT BLANK RANGE!

On Jan. 5, 2024, during a presidential campaign speech delivered in Sioux Center, Iowa, former U.S. President Donald Trump said of the previous day's school shooting in Perry, Iowa, "We have to get over it."

Agreed. My major issue though is the term “politically” Politics used to be about taxes, social programs, the economy, health &infrastructure, and the govts role in that. One party has been corrupted by racism, sexism, homophobia and extreme religious beliefs as their platform. That’s not politics.

The far right has been calling for the death/rejection of empathy, while glorifying guns above all else, including Charlie Kirk himself. Is it really all that surprising when those on the right refuse to have empathy and do something about guns when guns are a pillar of their entire movement?

Kirk was merely a casualty in the Culture Wars he has helped to instigate. He just wasn’t wealthy enough to insulate himself from the consequences of his actions. And he got handsomely wealthy from doing it. Make no mistake about it;

Yes but that anguish never translated into gun control or empathy to victims of gun violence, even children. They are not being hypocritical in this matter. It's always been business as usual which is fomenting more violence.

Kirk's family is mourning for him but the rest of the R party LOVES it that he got unalived. LOVES it. They are wallowing in the faux victimization and celebrating the hell out of this opportunity to do even more incitements to violence with even more hate speech. There's no anguish. They LOVE it.

Truly sick that they will abuse this opportunity to inflict pain and suffering on the poor! So sick and disturbing. The poor and wretched must now organize and rise up. #wretchedPride #poorpride My mom was an unaccompanied minor and came from Mexico undocumented at 16 years old. I am proud of her!

We all do agree with respect to children, generally speaking. That's why we don't talk about it. There's nothing there to sustain an argument. There's more dissonance over an adult with views people variously support or condemn, and that discord keeps people talking about it.

if it starts from the top, you can forget about us all agreeing. 47 has made it clear that he will use this to further pound in the wedge to divide us. Doesn't matter that a dude on the extreme right killed a dude on the extreme right. To Trump, it's all his messaging, and his base and GOP follow

Too late now school shootings have become $1 billion business. Just like immigration has become billion dollar businesses, private people who profit through such misery. Republicans created this monster for a reason.

It’s the pentagon threatening people about posts that’s really bothering me currently, as it’s very clearly partisan. People are losing their jobs over this both in the federal and private sector…did that happen when actual government officials were shot in Minnesota?

Andrew Flanagan@andrewf68.bsky.social

"thoughts & prayers" repugs & tRump Love gun violence🤬😈 tRump has terminated more than half of federal funding for gun violence prevention programs - cutting $158M in grants directed to groups in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington DC & Baltimore www.reuters.com/legal/govern...

The process in US since the introduction of guns is not going to end unless the process is put on the nation in a sabbatical way Not the forced Project 2025 & ruin US economy & other countries using tariffs to justify it globally The US is now isolated in these issues Wealthy & DT forefront causing

If the plan was to stoke even more hate & division, it couldn't have been planned better. He will burn it all down, even incite a civil war, just to distract & deflect from what will eventually be exposed - he RAPED & BRUTALIZED a 13 year old girl. This could either be a moment for us ALL to heal...

Yes. He's brutally assaulted untold numbers, and I've seen as many as 26 verified, but it's the "Katie Johnson" assault that I've seen video testimony of - and why it's not MSM, headline news by itself is criminal. It's damning evidence. Even the soulless repug congress will back down.

You have to fight to get rid of this Putin puppet Pedophilie rapist 34 times convicted felon ..!! And this criminal network .. from Thiel to Koch bro .. from Zucker to Google .. It’s a network

MAGA/GOP doesn't want it to end. They are fomenting this. They are just whiney asses when it's one of their own that dies. Others are price of 2A No-one should die for exercising their 1A rights, IDT that the MAGA/GOP feels that way though. They only think they & theirs shouldn't worry about dyeing.

YOUR party insights violence everyday. YOUR party is lying right now all over media. Why don't YOU go on fox news and talk to YOUR party that YOU choose to affiliate with and tell them to their face how immoral all of them are? You vote the same as trump,ted Cruz, rand paul and Mike Lee. Grow up.

Trump ignored the Melissa Hartman murder, but when a human pile of shit like Kirk gets what he deseves, he becomes a martyr, with his body lying in state, a national day of mouring, possibly a statue. Shows exactly how divided the country is, and how different both parties plans are to lead us.

Because the right wing doesn't care about anyone but themselves. They didn't even want to acknoledge anything when Pelosi got attacked with a hammer, when Melissa Hartman and her family were murdered, Trump just mentioned it in passing, saying if the killer was found, he'd be punished,

I wished that was a consensus among everyone regardless of their political ideology, but I opine that isn’t going to happen. We live in a brainwashed society. So many people want to have the power to kill other people…with military grade weapons in their possession.

The person they looked up to politically looked at school shootings as evidence of liberty. So . . . no, I don't think they agree it should all end. To judge by his widow's response, she wants to treat this as the beginning of real violence.

I cannot understand following someone who claims to be Christian, who runs a scheme for fame and fortune that is a diabolical attack on everything this country stands for. We may have the most ignorant and morally bankrupt electorate in America history. Charlie got what Charlie advocated.

Crazy that people are being fired for stating their feelings about Charlie Kirk’s death. He was a private citizen, social media influencer: not a member of Congress,Senator or a state politician. We are expected to canonize him and white wash his ideology. Freedom of speech for me but not for thee

“Kirk’s Watchlist has terrorized legions of professors across this country. Women, Black faculty, queer scholars, basically anyone who challenged white supremacy, gun culture, or Christian nationalism suddenly found themselves targets of coordinated abuse,” Patton wrote.

I’m sure there will be a newly anointed Christian white nationalist to fill his racist shoes. Is David duke still a live to debate why the white man is superior to all of us substandard humans.

Distressing words from the widow re: …standing on his right side with the martyr’s crown… or words to that effect seemed unnecessarily rehearsed and overly dramatic like this entire episode toward the dark side. Keep talking truth!

You're correct on the second part but looking up to someone like that politically just makes you a giant piece of shit, which explains why they don't care about the kids getting killed in school. They especially don't care about the most recent school shooting and I bet you can figure out why.

Nah, they are just looking for an excuse to create violence towards the left. Silence the left and carry on with their white nationalist agenda. I would bet everyone here agrees with your statement. Not so much over on the hell site though.

This. And it makes me sick that a hatemonger gets special glory..flags at half mast...capital rotunda...why? My husband didn't even know who he was...same as many other people. And the GOP won't even put up a *plaque* for LEOs killed on J6! Who were courageously keeping *Congress* safe!

A person would have to have been living in a cave the last 30 years to believe Republicans give a damn about children being gunned down in schools. As Kirk said, school shootings are a “prudent trade off” for the unfettered right to carry weapons of war.

On the other site, I'm seeing the "anguish" quite tempered now that they can't use their "grief" to hate every Democrat. It's truly a deep sickness in the minds of so many Americans. I hope all the, anxious to kill lefties, MAGA on X were foreign trolls and not anyone calling themselves American.

And while I do support gun control, there are also some other measures to take most of the shooters have the same profile They became extreme from being isolated and get sucked into toxic online communities

How can it all end when the president and Stephen Miller are ranting about how they will use the state to go after the left. Some civility needs to start at the top and these two, I'm afraid they will not be able to do that.

I don't give a shit about the anguish of moral degenerate Republicans who idolized Charlie Kirk. Just as I would not have given a shit in 1945 about the anguish of Germans who idolized Adolf Hitler.

Because it's not their children. It's as simple as that. Maybe if somebody told them one of those kids could have grown up to be another Charlie Kirk, they'd care a bit, but not enough to do something about the guns that killed them.

YES! The constant finger pointing, accusing, defending, arguing..... it's exhausting. Nothing is learned from it. Real world problems are being ignored. Frustration is building while we are too distracted to notice our national wealth being stolen in broad daylight. Stop the insanity.

School, supermarket, church, parades...... I could go on for an hour. I do not care how righteous you are. Your prayers will not stop a bullet! You want guns, only allow the same guns as our forefathers! School was shot up the same day as Kirk was shot. Love ones are lost every day.....GUNS!

I haven’t seen any of that anguish for the two other shootings that happened in the last couple days. No discussion or discourse on the level we have seen for Kirk. I do appreciate Representative Wortman being brought back up though.

That and the hypocrisy of beautifying Charlie Kirk and planning memorial statues while a law mandated plaque honoring the law enforcement officers who defended the Capitol on January 6 has been ignored, essentially broken, by MAGAt Johnson.

The anguish does not justify going after those not part of the crime as though there is some sort of collective guilt. Especially for people who haven't advocated for political violence or even, like many transgender people, who have nothing at all even to do with that discourse over Mr Kirk.

Their empathy chip has been removed—or perhaps it was never there to begin with. What we’re seeing isn’t genuine anguish. They’re using their friend’s death as a mask, a convenient cover for what they truly feel. And what they feel isn’t grief. It’s hate.

I think it’s sad that we get irate over attacks on people who spew hate while just having thoughts and prayers on almost 50 schools shootings this year. Celebrating Charlie Kirk’s assassination is disgraceful and so was his calls for Paul Pelosi’s attempted murderer to be released. Thankful for you!

Hey, I don't want to get caught in between this maniacal Maga influencer gang war. Is there a color, hat or scarf I shouldn't wear? I don't want to piss off either side. Can we STOP KILLING KIDS now??

Andrew Flanagan@andrewf68.bsky.social

"thoughts & prayers" repugs & tRump Love gun violence🤬😈 tRump has terminated more than half of federal funding for gun violence prevention programs - cutting $158M in grants directed to groups in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington DC & Baltimore www.reuters.com/legal/govern...

Only because none of those children could influence maga voters and deliver benefits to maga and trump. To the Rs and MAGAs they were insignificant and expendable. As Charlie said we must accept that to protect the 2nd amendment we must accept that ppl will die. He just didn't think it would be him