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I wonder: could we as a society just run LLM-accellerated scientific programs for new battery/solar designs, CRISPR-like enzymes, cancer cures - the stuff where outcomes really matter - while also maintaining a humans-only sandbox for these people to experience the joys of the life of the mind in?

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We already have this split for everything. The folks down at my local tennis court don’t think they’re about to be on the pro tour. It’s fine.

I think some people are not cognizant of what side of the split they are on. Explains some weird arguments about software and AI I have had with people who believe that software is a creative endeavor (true), and Literally Every Line Of Code Is A Sacred Expression Of Programmer Creativity (false).

I mean not even that, it's just. There is some amount of irreduceable mundane labor that must be done in the process of lowering our ideas into executable programs. AI can't think things out for you, but once you HAVE thought things out AI can help convert your thinking into code.

And the more you want to make the code the best possible expression of your thinking, the more effort it takes! Readable, moduler, maintainable, well-tested, easy-to-understand code that clearly lays out your thinking requires clearer thinking and MORE TYPING than a mess of spaghetti.

If you can make AI do more of the effort of writing the actual lines of code, that gives you more time to think about whether that code is the code you should be writing, and less attachment to the code if it turns out ripping it out and redoing it is the right answer.

At least, I think he said that. The embers of the internet argument I had with someone who is insisting that can't POSSIBLY be what he means are still smoldering.

So do you have any kind of actual knowledge that you basing this statement on? Some way to deepen our collective understanding of the world? Or is this one of those fact-free opinions I keep hearing about? I hear they're less filling and taste great.

What do you base anything you say on? You are in exactly the same epistemic position as I am, relying on the same fuzzy reasoning and hunches. And I am not going to be alive by the time you realize you are wrong. The AI always has these very cocky meat suits, posturing proficiency. Just kill me.

Please, stop polluting the internet with your delusions and euthanize those of us who don't want to participate in what is coming. The world you are helping to create is not worth living in for someone like me. Just help me die.

If you are sincere about your suicidal ideations, I would recommend speaking to a mental health professional if you are in a situation where that is at all possible. There's a lot that is bad in the world right now, much of it AI related, much of it not, but I promise life can be worth living.

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My opinions are not solely based on "fuzzy reasoning" and "hunches." There is some of that, but I have lived experiences, both with programming and with AI, that inform my thinking, as well as accounts from people who I trust. I don't what the epistemological basis for your beliefs is.

I am sure that you are more than capable of reading my post again. But enough about me: where do your opinions come from? What experiences have you had with LLMs and software engineering?