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i find this wild because i only like reading 3rd person there will always be people who dont like someone's work, and conversely there will always be people who do like their work. write what and how you like 🤷

I have 2 thoughts 1 - JHC what is wrong w people who say stuff like that But 2 - literacy has already gone through these phases before When Arthur C Doyle & Agatha Christie were writing, it was the trend to write in 1st person cuz people wanted the narrator to be recalling the story to you

Like trends are in everything Like remember when game of thrones got popular & so many novels were called "a (blank) of (blank)"? 1st & 3rd person narration are like the only good narration so they're gonna "take turns" being the most popular narration for a time.

Like yeah, people are being weird about it & there's a lot to be said on how people see & treat those who make the "content" they consume (I think Lockdown & like social media have really hurt us) But also trends happen all the time. This, too, will change & we'll be back to 3rd person.

It's weird to see the preference for 1st person being correlated with fanfics as an origin, because to me it seems like the opposite is true - fanfics are usually in 3rd person. Heck, out of the 4 fics I read this week all 4 were in 3rd person, (1/3)

I have a comment on my own fic going "Usually I prefer 3rd person, but..." and if the Ao3 subreddit is to be believed 3rd person is preferred in general. I have seen more than a few people naming 1st person narration as their pet peeve that causes them to drop a fic. (2/3)

What drives me up a wall are the fics written in present tense. Like, present tense is a good literary special effect for action scenes, but you can't write your whole story like that. That's the most obnoxious literary trend I've been noticing lately

That’s been a shift seen in the last few decades, and it’s possibly thought to be linked to the effect of media like TV. There are studies that show the tense does impact how the reader interprets the tone of the writing, so my feeling is it’s more a matter of whether it fits the flow of the story.

I don't connect to the story and much harder to empathise. It's a me issue. Might have something to do with being ND. I didn't say that it's good or bad, it's a preference.

On one hand, it is very tempting to shake a fist at “kids these days”, but on the other I’m just coming off a four-day convention where there were authors and readers of all ages interacting and I didn’t hear about this phenomenon once. So… even if it’s a real bad take, I’m not sure it’s a problem.

Also I’m getting super tired of the “I found this crazy thing being said on TikTok” version of journalism, it’s not far removed from the “billionaire said shit” school of headlines.

As an editor & an anthropology kid, this suggests 2 things to me: 1. Likely more a reflection on education, particularly the gutting of the humanities, than literary culture. 2. Diversity is solely seen as a fight with oppression rather than as an opportunity for new experiences & perspectives.

200% this, it's just because that's the format almost everything online has been written for many years.

Harrow the Ninth is in second person, its an absolute trip and a challenge to read the first time, but once you finish it and understand what is going on (and *why* it is in second person), it all just clicks. It's one of those books that imo needs to be read twice to be understood.

There are not that many books written in second person, but Harrow is the only one I know of with a narrative excuse.

Stross wrote a couple in second person (Halting State, Rule 24) with a neat conceptual explanation that isn't actually disclosed in the books (or is so easy to miss that I missed it in a couple of readings), but that he's discussed aloud in a couple of appearances

To be honest, I also think it says something about the lack of empathy people seem to have lately. Instead of being able to put themselves in others people's shoes through reading different point of views and perspectives, they often prefer to read it in first person so they dont have to connect

why is the “strange thing” affecting literature not the arrival of dump trucks full of books with ultra-specific tags to market to people like this in the first place? why does the POV matter more than people wanting every single book they read to have the same plot?

I don't particularly care how girls get their smut or what person it's written in, as long as they can get it.

I only do that with computer games. Because there third person really sucks, kills immersion and produces level design with huge spaces that constantly has to accommodate a camera, lest you look at a wall from the wrong side. And for what? So I can constantly look at my character?

If your story is only first person then that's the only perspective you get, I enjoy seeing both sides of the romance, from both partners. But beyond that, not being able to relate to someone else to put yourself in their shoes seems like a failure of empathy.

1st person gives me such unimaginable ick 😅. I struggle to read it (spend a lot of time going, "But WHY am I doing that very stupid thing?" I have enough of that to deal with with my real brain.) Also, it forces a specific narrative perspective that limits world knowledge. But each to their own.

|| Lee, the TikTokker, put it this way: “When I read first person, I’m almost like, That’s me. That’s me in the book.” || Well, Lee the TikTokker - you're full of shit.

I did have someone dm about only reading 1st person, but it was in a polite, "please let me know if you write a 1st person story and I'll buy it" way. (oops, I forgot to let them know. oh well)

That sounds like walking into a restaurant and complaining that it isn't a McDonald's. If that's all you want to eat, then fine, you do you, but why come here? Just stay at McDonald's.