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Toyota EV van is $20k cheaper than the VW.

VW has one but it's super expensive - the starting price is $60,000.

Just the incredibly expensive ID.Buzz

VW iD Buzz Also, the Chrysler Pacifica did offer a plug in hybrid with 32 miles of EV range, so unless you don't drive that far on a daily basis it was EVnough.

I’ve not heard about discounted price! Or more range. A bit more functionality- it sort of feels like they’re trying to milk the current architecture for what it’s worth. My id buzz lease will expire in 2028 and desperately hoping for decent EV minivan options by then (better id buzz or other).

Yeah wonder if they have absurdly dumb van life trims that cost even more. Not gonna look because I will rocket to being the most divorced person on the face of the earth

My next vehicle will be a battery minivan. Fortunately I still have about 10 years left on my ICE van. Either toyota and Honda will have BEV vans by then or Chinese ones will be available in the USA. I hope.

And the hybrid plug in Pacifica is a disaster! Every so often the dashboard tells me to find a safe spot because the engine shut down - yes, on the freeway too. Chrysler has not agreed to fix the issue that appears to be a problem with transition from electric to gas. Can't sell it so I'm stuck.

You sir get Ford F-350's and a cold civil war.

You look it up. It has not been a thing for six years

America be like Toxic Masculinity: The Country

Should be coming to Canada any time now.

It’s coming back to the US for ‘27 at a lower price

More and more reminds me of "V for Vendetta" The US referred to as (but obviously not for the same reasons listed in the movie):

High speed rail AND cheap EVs? Chile, that ain't dabbing, that's a lecture.

So you mean to tell me we let them make us look like dumbasses. Period.

Nah I'm pretty sure the visible-minority of us are making us look like dumbasses quite well on their own.

anyone does anything decent in the world, USAians think it's a personal insult against them.

correction: "land of the free and home of the brave" country

Jajajaja: 'minivan'? En inglés, a eso lo llamamos 'golf cart'. Top speed is 31 MPH. Range - as far as I can tell - isn't even listed. There's a reason for that.

We got to test drive one for a few days and it was SO fun and greeted as we drove down the street like a giant lovable dinosaur. People stopped us everywhere to ask about it. It is real big tho

i saw one parked yesterday, first time seen in the wild

the daily id buzz commute sighting plus the missed buying window combo, peak car longing era