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I do feel like we're seeing a kind of two tiered accountability though where once a game is big and people like it its hard to put the genie back in the bottle. Its kind of much easier to punish smaller games in this way

It's hard to get excited about a game that outsources some of it's production to the torment nexus. Even games that look to be made by a single dev in the global south and clearly a passion project gets messy when they use ai to supplement a lack of resources or expertise.

That's a big number. Good. I'm anecdotal evidence, but I don't cover a game if it has AI. Lots of demos to play. I'll give my time to those who put in the work

Pretty sure. If you check again in 2027 people intolerance to the AI stank will be even worse. I think it is quite remarkeable, that we already have these numbers.

Finally some actual data and all

Ppl putting in the work to kill this thing before it overtakes everything

The article does address the first point at least. These screenshots are a very small snippet of it but the tl;dr is that the gap in sales likely is motivated by ai usage even when (crudely) controlling for genre, experience, etc.

another factor to consider is that if I see a game openly saying it uses Ai, I don't even give it the time of day and immedaitely set it to block and ignore so it doesn't show up on my page anymore so there's prolly a lot of people that can't even leave reviews because of that

2/2 An indy dev using AI to help code a point-and-click adventure game might be penalised over a major AAA studio making a 120fps streaming game without AI. But the latter will likely have a far greater footprint even on a per-player basis. Not to mention being more exploitative of employees.

Sweet. 👍

Woah, same team. I took your original reply to mean people don't want low quality things (which is also true), not necessarily that all genAi is slop. My original reply was just expanding on that it's more than just a quality thing, people oppose the other issues with genAi as well

The constant proclamation drives me insane. Left behind it "what" exactly? Typing prompts to a machine to think for me?

My favorite quote is this one: "Overall, our data suggests that for low-quality games, AI makes no difference. But for high-potential games, the "AI Stigma" is real and severely punishes developers who otherwise would have succeeded."

There is a line Chuck Sonnenberg repeated from when he was a teacher dealing with a plagarised paper - "I'm not judging it based what's on the paper, I'm judging it by what you did." I always followed that mindset when it comes to AI.

Them's rookie numbers, let's get that drop to 75/80/95%!

Between this and the Pope’s Encyclical I’m going to be a menace at faculty meetings this fall

honestly this is emboldening. REPEATEDLY I've seen commentaries how "no one cares about it, people still buy it anyway" bla bla ... And yet, the numbers paint a different story every time.

At this point I think people are using ai out of pure politics and cult worship. Nobody outside their specific in group wants anything to do with ai. We are all plainly sick of it.

Unfortunately, no... they won't. They have invested TRILLIONS into a theoretical framework that isn't returning on investment, so now the only option they see is to double down and force feed it to everyone to create the illusion of success. This is an excellent case study on sunken cost fallacy.

Shout out to all the indie game fans that have standards. You guys rock. I feel like as a developer I pretty much can't make a statement strong enough against the use of AI. 🔥🤖🔥

I will check the Steam forums for a game if there's no disclosure but it seems off, and there's often already a thread asking & some chump in the replies screaming "ugh bandwagon crusade" and some other person saying "if there's no disclosure obviously there's no ai" which is demonstrably false

The conclusion in that article is quite insane to read. Completely ignoring the conclusion the data gives to fall back on the "it must be good" narrative.

Unfortunately, this is only based of games with AI disclosures versus the ones that don't. I expect this will just push people to not disclose, instead of not using AI. Only Steam requires a disclosure and there is no penalty for failing to disclose (see The Alters or E33) 😕