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It's also a key indicator of an abusive marriage

That’s “collective narcissism”

The wife beater always blames the wife for making him beat her…as old as time.

That's not centrist. That's closeted right wing.

“They are always doing it the right way and you are always doing it the wrong way if you don’t like it”

The Nazis did the same. If a Jew did something wrong, it was proof of how Jews are. If Germans did something horrible to a Jew the Nazis said, "see what those Jews make good Germans do."

I'm sorry .. that is an oxymoron... one cannot be a reactionary and centrist.. in fact those terms are not only mutually exclusive.. they are terms that don't convey mutually agreeable understanding.. Its like saying Leftists and rightists... people have no clue what that really is..

Same as the abuser’s defense.

My favorite is the one where people started being openly racist again because the Left complained about racism too much (ie too much “political correctness”)

Republican mantra: Always accuse the other guy of what you're doing.

No humanity. No compassion. No decency.

Yuppers...

I remember people questioning themselves over whether we went too far on trans-rights issues. No, no we didn't. They're just Nazis doing Nazi shit.

Oh FFS. When the self-proclaimed "left" willingly does stupid shit that gets people killed, they blame normie Dems when they choose to elect Republicans, they blame normie Dems, when they get called out for their complicit asshateey, they whine and blame normie Dems. They never take responsibility

I kindda am me too. Being centrist in principle mean you have one foot each side depending the issue. That doesn't mean yours and I or anyone stand their l & r foot on the same issues. That's why there's quite a good diversity in the center and a difficulty for cohesion.

🤬💔WANTED💔🤬. One person, male/ female, any race or descent THAT HAS info sufficient to END Trump regime & BALLS BIG enough to come forward with that information! MUST BELIEVE in right/ wrong, equal justice for everyone & the Constitution! IF THIS IS YOU, PLEASE COME FORWARD, Democracy needs YOU!

If it is good trump did it if it is bad President Obama or President Biden did. Another Republican fool the fools lie

How do you deal With a contrarian who’s a criminal? Because the contrarian can never have a set way to think Add the criminal element and it’s crazed nonsense

NYT take...

So true. Also- centrists have poll-tested positions that do not resonate with ANYONE. It’s like saying the average family has 1.85 kids so we advocate for a 1.85 kid policy. They chase the statistical middle of the Overton window while apologists have aided its rightward shift.

I found marking them like that almost makes more of them show up. Not sure why the algorithm doesn’t understand

If you see an ICE agent, so t let them walk away. Don’t tell them to “leave”. Be a the fuck of out of them and leave them bleeding in the street and send a message that they’re not welcome. They’re killing kids but THAT doesn’t make it on the news. They hide whatever they can.

Not exactly. Centrist here. I’ll believe the left and MAGA fuel each other’s vitriol. Both are to blame. Yet, I do hold the left more accountable because they are my friends, and because they are smart enough to know better.

It’s what fascists do. They just make shit up…

Abusers

Never account for anything. Narcopathy personified

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Abusers creed

"America isn't like this because Trump is President. Trump is President because America is like this."

same as abusive partners. totally the same.

Every accusation is a confession

That seems to be their m.o.

SOMEONE PLEASE! PLEASE RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES AND READ THE NAMES!

Anyone else heard that the reason officers “have to mask up” is because of the protestors? 😣

What is a reactionary centrist?

I tell people regularly to read “Why Does He Do That” by Lundy Bancroft. It’s a book about being in a romantic relationship with a narcissist but at this point the relationship is between the people and the abusive narcissists running this country.

Never met a politically discreet individual who turned out to be on the left

Same old story.

And next, we will have Trump yelling at us all that he is as white as snow. This might be the time to mention the Epstein files. He will not respond well to it.

Most centrists are just MAGA who don't want to admit that they are a piece of shit out loud.

It's the abusive spouse argument. It's your fault, you made me hit you.

Elect Fascist Career Criminals, Get Crimes!!! Invoke Article One, Section 4 Of The Constitution And Prosecute Trump, His Entire Administration, All GOP Members Of Congress, And All SCOTUS Justices Who Voted For Presidential Immunity, For War Crimes, Espionage And Treason!!!

It's like being an independent. All bark, no bite.

There might have been a chance to address the problems with weaponized hypocrisy back in the 90's, but hypocrisy can only be stopped if it is subjected to criticism, shame, and social consequences. The press utterly failed in that duty, starting then.

We exist and we don't agree. Therefore we are to blame for everything for all time. Check.

Also seems to be the über left’s argument too Can’t tell you how many people are posting Dems “made them” sit out the last election — especially lately. They were quieter for a while and are back now — so also may be a lot of trolls 🪴🪴

POST THAT UP. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! FFS!!!!!!

youtube.com/shorts/VKk3D...

Just like every domestic abuser: "Look what you made me do!"

False equivalency works every time.

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Stop gaslighting

Hmmmm … seems like the script in far too many domestic violence situations, too. Wonder if there’s a diagnosable connection between the phenomena. Imagine if there were an entire subculture advocating rigid conformity to this mindset ….

It’s Biden’s fault Ill Douche colors outside the lines.

Are they taking this opinion based on a US Centerist position?

It’s the language of an abuser. It’s your fault I hit you.

America is the battered wife. “Look what you made me do.” 😢

It's the language of the abuser.

The feeling is of course, mutual. Explain what you think you mean by civics and how you define reality. I will try not to laugh, I promise. Spew your ignorance!!

My fear is that arguments don’t matter anymore. What matters are data driven narratives cynically slammed against each other without a town hall in sight. ‘mericans won’t talk to each other’s faces about politics anymore, so I’m leaving the country.

The argument of the Narcissist - The GOP MAGA is the Narcissist party

+ can't let fear of what he "might" do stop us from protesting what he *is* doing.

They aren’t very smart. We know this. They have chosen to be willfully ignorant. They pretend to be stupid so they can lie to themselves about their racism. They do feel shame for being racist, we need to make them aware that we know they are fucking racists. It’s our only hope. Make them feel shame

Like I tell my good friend, everything can't be MY fault. If that was the case, we wouldn't still be friends. But I am the only one who seems to be willing to admit when I make a mistake. MAGA never admits failure. They NEVER do anything wrong. How about January 6th? We didn't do that.

That’s the same as RW “logic” I wonder why

Ah much like the man who abuses his wife. It’s never his fault; she made him to it

I saw a comment months ago that the right (MAGA) is the abuser in a DV situation, while the left (Dems) are the victim, and honestly, it's colored the way I see the whole dynamic now. (As in: "How did I not see this, before? It's so obvious!")

This sounds exactly like the world view of the reactionary right, too. For a party that preaches "personal responsibility" to everyone else, they obviously don't think it should apply to them! The hypocrisy is astounding (but not surprising).

Heads i win, tails you lose. Trump family motto

MAGA: classic DARVO abuser behavior... Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender

That logic is pure abuse logic: “you made me do it.” No matter what, it’s victim-blaming.

Narc same ol’ tactics

They are wearing me out!

Small dick victim mentality.

Sounds like the conservative marriage

Republicans don’t believe in human rights

Actually thats domestic abuser mentality. "Look what you made me do! Its your fault I had to beat you." Are we gonna be victims and take it oe are we going to stand up for ourselves? In numbers we're far more powerful which is why they want us divided, disorganized and disheartened.

Ew. Just threw up truth in my mouth.

The abuser's rationale: look what you made me do.

Heads I win. Tails you lose.

This is what infuriates me. Everyone owns their own choices @muellershewrote.com

Yup. Exactly what abusers say and do to their victims.

Jesus. First no one cld diagram that sentence. He didn’t provide any or even one example of what he was saying. That would have helped.

Isn't this how abusive partners also justify their actions?

Exact same logic used by malignant narcissists. They are never at fault. "See what you made me do?"

As a reminder, everyone who is not a fascist is "to the left" of fascism. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Where is the last post I found the link

When asked if I am right wing or left, I always answer, No.

Basic russian logic too.

This is why Trump won again.

The Democratic establishment is really easy to understand if you accept the premise that, at their core, they really hate poor people just as much as Republicans do. It explains every position the party, writ large, has taken since the 90s.

The hallmark of the “weak” minds Voltaire referenced in his famous quote: grievance and scapegoating. Sad. Their human intelligence provides them with so many better options.

if you accept unacceptable behavior, you make it acceptable...

That does tend to be how abusive relationships work.

It’s domestic abuse 101

They learned this tactic from their relationships...

A classic domestic abuser mindset. The victim made the perp do it.

It's the same as a wife beater... I didn't wanna, but she knows how i am and she made me

“You made me do this to you”, defense.

Just like every Abuser, it’s always someone else’s fault that’s why they need to punish you. Then scream look what you made me do!!

It's also the same logic that a narcissistic psychopath will use on their victims. Textbook. Verbatim.

They only exist in their own minds.

It's the same 'logic' used by bullies & abusive people. It's always their victims fault.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:
There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time. — Frank Wilhoit

They did it when the Articles of Confederation failed--so there is precedent (although precedent isn't really required for a tweak of the Founder's experiment creating a democratic/republican form of government.

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Literally everything this cult does involves Gaslighting, Projection, Disinformation, and Boldface Lying. The classic fascist strategy🤬

And every accusation they make against Democrats is either a confession of something they've already done or a foretelling of something they will soon do.

We've heard that logic before. I had to hit her, she wouldn't stop talking. She "made" me. And on and on and on. That's who these people are.

Heads I win tails you lose syndrome

Sadly that is using a childs' logic. It's always someone else's fault to deflect from what they've done wrong. So sad and so childish.

💯💯 correct. This was part of the Nazi playbook, which they are clearly following…. See Goebbels propaganda tips below 💔

It is also the right’s logic.

What sane about bombing Palestinian children?