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ah yes the goddamned potty police as I like to call it

I think the key is to start talking about it in personal rights terms. Once you can get government approval to look at someone’s genitals to confer a right, you can really do almost anything to them. Dems need to draw the line in the sand that these personal rights are not for the government.

Your solidarity is appreciated ❤️

It's only right to support Trans rights so I have to, personal risk to myself be damned. I've volunteered and campaigned for it and I always will.

Like there is simply no way you can be anti-trans while also supporting any form of medical freedom while maintaining logical consistency.

Consultants: ”Why don’t more people care about politics? Why do they live their lives as if they’ll be fine regardless?” Also consultants: “Let’s write off every group of people who live their lives as a political act and know they’re always one election away from being more repressed.“

It's all the same repression project. They just keep shifting the target to find a group marginalized enough that most folks will go along. And any victory quickly snowballs That's how they overturned Roe, only to pivot to birth control! Your rights are next, sucker

Right? Purely aside from the fact that there's nothing wrong with being trans, there's NEVER a case where someone uses the power to harm a small, defenseless minority to ONLY hurt that minority. It's always a door to hurting everyone the people in power want to hurt. You can't give any ground.

Yes anyone who doesn't conform to the idealised Nazi image will be in trouble eventually, first it's us Trans people, lets see what's on the chopping block next, either gay rights or possibly abortion so we can be like the cool kid in the White House 🤮

protecting trans rights is protecting human rights which protects everyone. it never ends with trans peeps. they always move on and keep taking and keep hating.

💯☝️ I would include that if you believe in equal rights, that belief must extend to all people, not just people who look like you do. Otherwise, you just believe in discrimination. It is as simple as that for me.

it's also demonstrably a gateway drug to further insanity

I’m straight cis male and I agree 100% and hold both a) and b) as dealbreakers. Cis gays are next, but they won’t be the last.

You take Ben Starr's name off your online handle you hack.

Equal employment. Not being discriminated against for changing (or not changing) your legal name. Being able to change name. Etc There are definitely issues to do with bodies and the two sexes that are tricky but they have very little to do with the question of trans rights in America as it stands.

Whatever makes you the most upset. I cannot stress that enough. The answer is whatever makes you the most butthurt over something that has absolutely zero impact on your miserable excuse of a life.

you would literally be the first person in the world to ask that question in good faith.

Competitive advantage seems to go away once someone has been on hormones for a certain amount of time

These situations are incredibly difficult already. To think that some random strangers know how to handle them better than the person in question, their family and their medical team is unhelpful and unreasonable.

You can count on the fingers of two hands the number of trans hs athletes in most states. Not a single one has materially swung results in a way that matters.

Unfortunately "liberal" media ecosystems are actively trying to delegitimize that and make it seem like trans people have somehow overreached, but all the proposed policy is so obviously cruel or alienating (or just blatantly illegal) that the media campaigns have to climb uphill and seem hysteric.

Messaging like "Be who you wanna be, love who you wanna love, and still have equal life opportunities as everyone else" "Oh, and the freedom to poop and pee in peace" Would play pretty well. But is that conceding the framing? (sad it needs a "given consent" disclaimer here, but...)

And it's culture war nonsense based on twitter fights and lies, so like if you're a politician dim enough to fall for that, what other dumb shit are you going to fall for?

then of course some of the politicians pushing this shit are ideological bigots which (maybe hot take but) should not be allowed on the left even if it means we lose forever

I just get grossed out by anyone in power who punches down at the most-vulnerable of my neighbors, and right now that's a tie between trans kids and undocumented folks. So yeah, it's a dealbreaker for me too.

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And for cis women, it’s just another iteration of policing our bodies and femininity.

Even ignoring the clear morality of it, being squishy on it just tells me I can't trust you about *anything.* You need to stand for *something*, and if you get squeamish with a few shit heads yelling at you online why would I trust you do anything that would garner even more reaction.

Max, this + your replies to the anti-trans shitheads + your staunch support and advancement of YIMBY policy is why you're one of the GOATs in my book

I think the whole “personal autonomy is the universes greatest good“ thing works against social, well, anything, but you’re 1000% right about their next targets. I will bet any sum of money they are plotting how to get gay marriage back in front of a much friendlier Supreme Court. It’s coming.

"oh, another type of human being doing no real harm to those around them? yea, get tf away from them" it's literally just authoritarian jenga, pushing on random blocks until one comes loose and they can start picking away at the rest

I know a bunch of trans people (mostly online, some irl). Some suck, some I've heard of suck a ton. I bet a decent handful dislike me for one reason or another. They still deserve rights though, I don't need every trans person to like me, or for me to like every trans person, to know that.

pretty sure nobody gave 2 shits about going after the trans community when the cis gay community was still the target.

they already are coming after the cishet women: www.usatoday.com/story/sports... but that was expected. warned about.

Never seen a transphobe have good political opinions on every other topic just sayin’

Yes. People don’t have to understand what it means to be transgender in order to support basic civil and human rights and freedoms for trans people. All they have to understand is that no one is free or safe unless everyone is.

I, a middle-aged, middle-class, straight, white, father & husband, second this message!