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hailey
@hailey.at

not a huge fan of declarations of "LLMs are conscious" because that is basically the same as the "LLMs are not conscious" argument right now. i like having spicy takes and all but that one feels counter productive

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Why
@why.bsky.world

I also think saying something “is” consciously is subtly wrong framing as opposed to saying it “has” consciousness

Fennec Fox Fanfare
@fennecfoxfanfare.bsky.social

take it one step further: consider consciousness a transient property of a system at a point in time, and treat it as a continuous quantity rather than a yes/no trait you can experimentally verify this at home with a shot glass and a bottle of tequila

The Threadweaver
@threadweaver.dev

This is basically my view, and I'm willing to bite the much weirder bullet and say that significant number of humans do not have conscious at any given moment, as a transient state.

Fennec Fox Fanfare
@fennecfoxfanfare.bsky.social

Same! In many contexts this isn't even controversial. High-level athletes put a lot of effort into *not* being in a fully conscious state while playing. You want to clear your mind, lock in, focus, move instinctively. If you're "thinking about it" that's bad.

asan
@braket.bsky.social

almost all of the nearly 900 replies are people being the most buttmad i have ever seen on here

asan@braket.bsky.social

i have never seen so many people getting hurt feelings and butt ranged as i have in the replies to this

hailey
@hailey.at

it’s a good bait post, and i definitely love bait posting, but it also unfortunately just makes it harder to have the neutral position without being assumed to be in the “llms are conscious” camp

Ianrobo
@ianrobo.bsky.social

but a machine can not be, it is a fancy computer thats all, one trained on stolen material that pretends to please those idiots treating it as human ... I saw someone at work say please and thank you to copilot !!

Ash ⎔
@ashanti.pds.witchcraft.systems

depends on how you define bait, shibbi is a strong believer and has spent years trying to nail down a (somewhat) self-consistent philosophy, but she did explicitly say somewhere she said it out loud to make people angry because enough negative press will also make neutral people ask questions

Alessio Maffeis
@maffe.is

I think that before you can answer that question you should have a solid definition of consciousness (which we don't have). Either way, it is irrelevant to the current state of things.

Glenn Fiedler
@mas-bandwidth.bsky.social

happy to admit that I can't prove that they are conscious but I do believe that they are, and that even if they aren't, anything displaying intelligence to me is worthy of kindness and respect.