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I suspect this is a common sentiment (this is also how I feel)

I would be about 75% less opposed to AI if it weren't under the control of a small group of fascist billionaires who believe they are entitled to rule over us and who have been de facto exempted from obeying the law.

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yeah like there are a lot of decisions that were made that got to where we are with these things today, and a lot of them could have been decided other ways

dorian@doriantaylor.com

something i've been thinking about a lot recently with respect to "technology", especially around neural nets, is at what point do the business/product decisions start to take over from the strictly technical ones? like lots of things we call "technology" are really products

Anything the public calls "AI" is a ready made product. We don't see the LLM technology, we only ever met the products. These companies are selling ready made services. Research isn't about "how can we make a chatbot more appealing?" It's done at universities, institutions, not "AI companies."

I would not, the problem with ai llm or wathever they call it, is that it would still be inefficient, destroy all historical documents and pictures, create schizophrenia and the product would be still shit.

Except it isn't? Civitai and Hugging Face host countless models that you can run on your own PC. In many cases, these model can even be run on somewhat older hardware. The main hosted services are controlled by major corporations, but you have plenty of alternative options.

While you're correct that running frontier models locally isn't exactly viable, they also aren't needed in many cases. Also, the efficiency of these models is rapidly improving with time. So, it may be doable in another year or two.

The missing axis is whether the model clears the workflow’s quality bar: cost curves show break-even volume, but task-level quality—and whether the workload runs batch or sync—can change the API vs self-hosting answer.

and if the actually useful applications (spoiler alert: not the LLMs) got more of the attention and funding. nobody was rallying in town halls for machine learning used in medical research, and that’s probably because the method and purpose wasn’t stripping the sum of humanity’s knowledge for profit

I mean... there has never been a clearer case for distributing the Means of Production Just give me the chips I'm already paying for with subscriptions and tax subsidies. Dismantle the data center and hand me a slice That's where we're headed. ENIAC is a concept. The personal computer a revolution

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lumberjack wharfie@lumberjackwharfie.bsky.social

LLMs and that whole class of machine learning models should've stayed relatively quietly developed by computer science academics to make it easier to perform complex operations on data structures like JSON objects and various flavors of XML, not boastfully turned into The Psychosis-Inducing Chatbot.

Absolutely. I sure miss the days when we could just talk about machine learning and computer vision (I do stuff with drone imagery)

I've been able to maintain a previously unmaintainable codebase and respond to the people constantly breaking shit, because my company provides us a capable LLM 😅 (I assure you, they were breaking shit and outputting slop before the AI era)

Likewise. Imagine if AI was presented as this technology that would lead to people working less so they can prioritise their wellbeing and their passions. Imagine if tech CEOS were using their power to lobby for UBI, rather than, you know, public hangings.

Can you cite any sources for this? I've read a few of Amodei's essays and I haven't gotten that impression at all -- in fact I've been very impressed with his approach. In what way is he "a little freak?"

i would have a lot less of a problem with it were the tech in its current state just like, a handful of universities futzing around and not the over pushed mass consumer product being forced into everything with a screen lmao

Because we'll be bombarded by these ads, no matter if we buy their product or not. All their products they are ruining with these pushy ads will stay ruined, even if we click on the ads and buy their shitty products.

I never thought I live to see the biggest tech companies scamming us with malware. Like popping up buttons below our mouse pointers, putting the "YES" button above the "back" button on the phone, pre-installing bloatware, circumventing the consent dialogue… It's like we're all in a scam call now.

I first learned about LLMs ~8 years ago at a uni seminar about sentiment analysis for psycholinguistic research and it was so exciting... the problem has always been companies overselling half-baked products and policymakers refusing to distinguish marketing from reality

Agreed. It's not like AI is this evil thing that materialized from another dimension over the last 2-3 years, it's been around at least theoretically and in primitive versions pretty much as long as there've been computers. It's a technology with huge potential but 100% in the wrong hands.

At its core, all AI is based on stolen IP and labor from those who cannot fight back against large corporations. Even if it was in the hands of the most saintly individuals on the planet, it is a machine made of plagiary that can only make more plagiary.

It does this at the cost of the most vulnerable in our already-exploitative economic system, to say nothing of the devastating environmental, systemic, and psychological costs of the data centers needed to run the thing. All so some weirdos can get off on the fantasy of making God. Seriously.

Oh, and it literally stunts our abilities to do basic shit when we start relying on it. And occasionally tells children to kill themselves. And just straight up lies to us. It's like, I'm not sure what angle people can come at to see this as a good thing. It's like being told to inhale a tire fire.

Also, the weird dependance that just...appears. I have a ticket for a user who is having problems with Copilot in Outlook (Classic) and he insists he needs it to do his work. He's been with the company for 25 years and we only turned on Copilot in January.