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It is dangerously naive to believe that cruelty can be directed only towards the guilty. An appetite for cruelty is equally sated by the victimization of innocents. There’s no reason that a straightforward prosecution of the administration’s crimes would be inferior to performative cruelty.

I’ve reported on war crimes tribunals, I spend most of my time documenting war crimes, and I think you’re the naive one if you believe we can break the will of these depraved beasts without extremely public and entirely legal consequences for their genocidal crimes.

I think I started where Carl is and have ended up where you are, or in the approximate neighborhood. I feel kind of awful about it, but I feel much more awful about them escaping justice, etc..

What is? I think you need to always consider what you do will be USED by the far right to JUSTIFY their own escalation. Which is why if you want to change the situation you need to apply tried and true tactics, like again study the Black Panthers. Protest peacefully, while armed. Outreach/ community

If you still believe that the evil and cruel among us require any sort of action on our part to justify their evil and cruelty, then you haven't been paying attention.

Disagree with Faine as you will, but don't talk as if the Musks and Trumps of the world need the excuse of our behavior to be awful. That just saps our ability to do anything.

The optics of killing people who have first tried to kill them goes down a lot smoother than killing nonviolent protesters and community organizers. Though of course even then the Black Panthers were hunted and killed by police.

I have studied nonviolent resistance in great detail, and I spend most of my time professionally documenting global war crimes. I believe I am right and you are wrong.

Yes. It's not a good option but least bad is what I think, too.

The beasts took the good options off the table. We do what we must.

Regardless of the level of harm, they have to be totally and utterly humiliated. I have to believe you can break the spine of a fascist movement without lawlessness/brutality or we're just going to get a different form of authoritarianism.

I have repeatedly said that I believe all of this can be done entirely legally and within our legal system. Did you miss that?

I guess. Legally doesn't really jive with black bags, to me.