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There are parts of Brooklyn where the best Jewish style deli food is at halal restaurants owned and operated by Yemeni Muslim immigrants who learned how to make wonderfully authentic brisket, pastrami, and corned beef. It's so perfectly New York and sums up so much of what's great about this city.

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Who knows, but specific to David's Brisket House and Moe's Pastrami & Burger, they specifically apprenticed to learn how to make the American Jewish style versions of brisket, pastrami, and corned beef.

And the only objections to this system come from racism. The perfect America is not one the is colour and culture blind, but one that is so aware as to embrace all culture. To truly not limit cuisine to heritage, but technique and respect for the craft. America is a melting pot for a reason.

Food culture is influenced by many factors, including religion, ethnicity and region. Jewish food is greatly influenced by Jewish dietary restriction- no pork, no seafood besides specific kinds of fish, no mixing of meat and dairy, etc.

we'll never be able to fix it until everybody does know the whole true story. That's why they are trying so hard to ban books and suppress free speech. Our voices are our most important weapons. Hatred cannot survive in the full light of truth.

David BASTARDspan@davidbix.com

Moe's Pastrami & Burger on Flatbush Ave near the Prospect Park B/Q/Shuttle station is a small casual place. A few blocks away from Record City if you're a vinyl person. David's Brisket House, with a more deli style atmosphere (and where Moe was previously) is in Bed Stuy by the Nostrand Ave A/C.

My friends that are Muslim used to go to Jewish Delis to get their food here in Vegas. Now that our community has gotten so large, we have several Mediterranean shops that sell Halah meat and products

Yes exactly! They're simultaneously making a point of making the authentic Jewish style meats in flavor and presentation while also providing a quality halal product for their community.

I'm talking about the specific Jewish style and going out of their way to learn it Jewish style corned beef and Irish style aren't the same, for example

Moe's Pastrami & Burger on Flatbush Ave near the Prospect Park B/Q/Shuttle station is a small casual place. A few blocks away from Record City if you're a vinyl person. David's Brisket House, with a more deli style atmosphere (and where Moe was previously) is in Bed Stuy by the Nostrand Ave A/C.

David BASTARDspan@davidbix.com

Moe's Pastrami & Burger on Flatbush Ave near the Prospect Park B/Q/Shuttle station is a small casual place. A few blocks away from Record City if you're a vinyl person. David's Brisket House, with a more deli style atmosphere (and where Moe was previously) is in Bed Stuy by the Nostrand Ave A/C.

The actual diet of Jewish Law which, even to this day, the Essenes obey, is plant-based. The insertion of a Sumerian tale, edited to turn a law-abiding vegan who endeavored to save his fellow animals from a massive flood into a meat eater. Gilgamesh / Noah

That is how the whole world should be! People learning from each other and making good things no matter what "tribe" they belong to instead of concentrating on how they're different from one another and hating the other person because of that difference.

It's like the time in east London that I bought Hindu kurta pyjamas from a Sikh shop, then got a free Koran in a shopping centre with a huge Christmas tree in the atrium. Great cities are like this 😁

The best fish and chips in my town is from a shawarma restaurant (it's really just take out, the chairs and tables are for waiting cause its busy). Just fantastic, and increasingly puzzling to the Syrian refugee brothers who run the place. "What, fish and chips again? Why no wrap, brother?"

You can get some really great middle and middle eastern food at some Jewish owned restaurants. I need to try those halal restaurants in NY. As Colbert said on his interview. The best sandwiches ever.

This is normal in many parts of the world. My favourite Indian restaurant in Vancouver is a culturally afghan family from Iran who really understood the neighbouring Pakistani cuisine that otherwise would have migrated to New Delhi. It’s called Indian food in New Delhi, but same recipes.

If you leave New York hungry, then you clearly didn't eat enough or venture out to experience the variety of food cooked by some of the best restaurants and hole in wall spots.

Thats what I loved about NY. Every kind of everybody was all over everywhere. My first landlord was Greek. My 2nd was Puerto Rican. Had PR, Italian, black , Ecuadorian and white boyfriends. This black GA girl was shocked to get Jewish holidays off work (and half day Fridays in the summer.)

When I worked on Queens Blvd., a Cambodian couple took over the coffee shop across the street. A few weeks later, when I ordered a toasted bagel, the guy asked: You want schmear with that?

Multiculturalism is the spice & variety of life Anyone who wants to return to salt & pepper with white bread can apply for a spot on one of Elons ships off planet I for one want the curry , the miso, the soy sauce, halal, kosher & jalapeños & all the rest

They have been making brisket and pastrami in their homeland for centuries—like all the non-pork eating countries. Pastrami is called basterma in MENA countries and the Levant. They have just adapted what they already knew to NYC tastes.

A quick search tells me that the Egyptian version might have the same Armenian origins as the Eastern European version. Either from there or Turkey, which may as well be the same given that it's just a one country difference. I'm not surprised that good preserved food ideas move around.

Every search I do (and I always ignore AI) tells me that the origin of the word "basterma" is either Armenian or Turkish, and that food historians generally place the origin of this specific approach to curing and spices in Armenia.

In this specific case the people behind David's Brisket House and Moe's Pastrami & Burger specifically learned how to make the American Jewish style implementations in terms of flavor, process, etc.

My info comes from my Egyptian husband & his family and all the middle eastern halal shops I go to to get the many varieties of it. It is different than Italian bresaola & also the pastrami I can get at a Euro style deli. But interesting crossover commentary. Might be an empire connecting the name.

I miss Jewish food; real Jewish food. Corned beef dripping in fat as God meant on sourdough rye &deli mustard. Kasha varnishkas w. grilled onions & shmaltz. Bagels normal sized, belly lox, and a bissel cream cheese not half a pkg. Mushroom barley, half sours & cole slaw w/o mayonnaise.

I too grew up in "Da Bronx'. Pel. Pkway area. There were so many delis in which to enjoy "real" corn beef and pastrami and knishes... I'm very far away from there now, but have such good memories! ...

Mosholu Parkway, where a 2 block + walk to the Main Gate of Bronx Botanical Gardens 🌼 A walk through the gardens, to South Gate, I could cross Pehlam Parkway and enter The Bronx Zoo! 🐘 Way back the both had Free Admission as in when Dinosaurs walked Anywhere for Free 🤣 Luv Bagels & KNISH

My friend lived by Mosholu Parkway; knew it well. My parents would take us to the Zoo and Botanical gardens at least once a month... That old pic is at the zoo. Even that young I didn't like to see the animals in cages. As for a good bagel, haven't found one in years ... Lovely meeting you!

immigrants make america great .. they infuse us with hard work ethic and the belief in the american dream. Or at least they did until the nazi in the white house got in power.