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a stammering NIH Director Jay Bhattacharya criticizes Dr Fauci: "He leaned into the mandates, denying natural immunity" 🥴

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Over 1.3 million Americans (and counting) would like a word with Jay about the whole natural immunity thing, but they're six feet under. Countless millions more are suffering various degrees of disability. Jay also doesn't understand the concept of mutation.

"Herd immunity"... because they're ok with the weak and vulnerable dying off, as evidenced by the Big Bullshit Bill and Dipshits Ongoing Grift for the Executive (DOGE) gutting programs and funding for vulnerable people... actively causing deaths. Fvcking brownshirts...

Jay thought everyone under 70 should get infected. He never thought about long COVID, even though we knew from SARS1 that this happened. He just didn't care because he's an economist with ties to big business and Big Oil.

The problem with natural immunity is that, in attempting to acquire it, you have to get sick with the illness that had a 1% case fatality rate, clearly higher in some groups. You could always augment your vaccine-based immunity with a later case of Covid and have had less risk for death.

"natural immunity" = "that which does not kill you still makes you pretty damn sick, and can leave you permanently debilitated, and oh yeah, it also might kill you"

I'd like to see Dr. Deborah Birx' text log and diaries. She was Trump's COVID Response Coordinator. They're blaming Fauci because they don't like him. He wasn't operating alone.

And he calls himself an expert? He’s pretending he has data, but he doesn’t. And he didn’t when he posted his first ‘let her rip’ paper which would have ended up killing an additional million or so of your friends and families. But not his since he’s vaccinated.

Shabby nonsense! Dr Fauci probably saved millions of US lives during COVID. On the other hand, his opponents may well have been responsible for a significant number of deaths.

If children didn't die at alarming rights or have sever lingering health issues years after they got them vaccines would not have been invented. How about they read old journals from before the vaccines were created to see the death rate.

No one had natural immunity, as no one had been exposed to this virus. It caused 1.2 million people to die and if Jay had his way, it would have been many more. Many who refused the vaccine died but who needed mandates.😏

He thought only people over 70 were likely to die and didn't care. He was wrong, plus many younger people developed long covid.

This guy knows that RFK Jnr is a nut job and that Fauci was right and saved countless lives during the pandemic but lacks the moral courage to say so a true specimen of Trumps war on science

What does natural immunity mean from this guy. I'm sure this NIH director would never have a way of identifying someone who could be labeled "naturally immune"...

No, Jay. Fauci did not have the responsibility to think out loud during a public health crisis. Re natural immunity: Ppl survived polio and small pox but the damage was ♾️ greater than getting the vaccine. I feel like an idiot even responding to this trash.

If natural immunity is perfect, why do we continue to catch influenza and common colds?! Could it be cuz viruses and other infectious organisms mutate?! FFS!!! Biology isn't pretty, and Fauci doesn't control all biology. No one knew how to address a brand new viral pandemic!!!

I find this framing weird because it isn’t really a choice between the vaccine and natural immunity is it? At this point most people who had the vaccine also have had COVID and that first exposure to it was less likely to land those who had the vaccine in the hospital is all.

Yes that's why we now have vaccines. You skip the disease and go straight to immunity. But Jay wants to lie that the vaccine had side effects.

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No one denied natural immunity. It was less reliable & would have required the unvaccinated masses to test if a valid test could have been developed. They would not even test for Covid. It was an impossible situation.

He thought that if everyone got infected, herd immunity would happen. It didn't. 1.2 million died. He was wrong. His smugness is incredible.

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Spock would not be impressed by the logical breakdown of his argument here. Sounds like Bhattacharya is miffed he wasn't in the loop of the conversations between Fauci and the other scientists.

Or get really lucky and have long covid for years. It gave me what the docs call jackhammer syndrome. Basically my esophagus was spasming so I couldn't breathe with my diaphragm stretched out. Felt like I was living with a knife in my chest. The only thing that helped was.....the vaccine.

Dear Morons-R-Us: If humans HAD a natural immunity to Covid-19, 800,000 would not have died. And, it mutates, so even after you've had it--you can catch a new mutation. Dr. Fauci is a hero & a national treasure!

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"Natural immunity" involves the development of protective immunological memory while feeling terrible and potentially dying before you can benefit, vaccination involves the development of (also natural) protective immunological memory with the main risk being brief symptoms of immune activation.

What is he trying to say? There was no natural immunity since it was a novel virus easily transmitted. Best way to protect was quarantine and masking. Humans have known this since the early 1900s.

Hey Jay, please provide examples of some major countries that leaned into natural immunity with good results. AFAIK, all countries that achieved good results during COVID took the same basic approach that Fauci recommended: mandated masks and social distancing. He failed due to right wing pushback.

Yes. Because they like the idea that that the weak die and the strong survive, and in this ironic, ASD/participation trophy-fueled fantasy, they fancy themselves "the strong".

… some might say that was the whole idea. UK was looking like they were going to do the same until it started killing the younger people.

The main difference is Sweden tried to keep schools for younger children open as much as possible, but adjusted regionally over time depending on spread.

But Sweden letting it run free is a bullshit story made up by US right wingers for US domestic purposes, just as a number of other “facts” about Sweden, eg regarding suicide rates, or crime that are made up to use politically in the US.

Case Fatality Rate (CFR): Based strictly on official, lab-confirmed reported cases recorded early in the pandemic, the measured percentage was much higher—often ranging between 3% and 5% (higher in hotspots like NYC) because many asymptomatic or mild cases went untested and uncounted as of May 2020.

Yeah over 1 million amercians dead natural immunity. Tell that to the families who lost loved ones. They won’t because everyone’s expendable to strive for the grift.

Against Sars-CoV2 there is no natural immunity. Immunity comes always from a contact with a virus. Period. You have no natural immunity to rattlesnakes unless you’ve been bitten a few times.

Natural immunity is great for a novel virus. But you have to get it first which is a crap shoot. Much better to just the vaccine to build up immunity.

Bullsh*t. Fauci was not just the head of an agency. He's also a MD and considered an expert in infectious disease including the use of vaccines. What this guy isn't reminding us of is that millions of people were dying across the globe. Might be important to include context.