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It would be interesting to see the work of such groups neutralize the value of the $12 billion worth of Nvidia chips Xai is supposedly seeking.

yeah also the general rhetoric that goes like "mcdonalds exists and therefore nobody eats any other food"

I think people fixate on the flashy startups with billion dollar valuations and miss out on all the successful small to medium businesses that provide a solid living to a handful of people. Success doesn't have to be what the media tells you it is. You get to define success.

UK trade unions asking for this www.youtube.com/shorts/36Wgx...

trust me. we want this to happen. it is difficult to do. also bluesky assumes i'm an oai shill constantly

I’m keenly aware.

regretfully i must agree completely

“Open source” doesn’t mean “owned by no one” … but I think you’re right that opening up the model’s training data and weights is a good 1st step. I’m not an expert on libre software licenses as they would apply to an LLM, but having a competitive, public domain AI is in the public interest for sure

I don’t think state of the art LLMs are necessary to change the dynamics of the market

I mean LLMs - at least right now - need insane amounts of servers. Where is the money coming for that?

And dreaming of a world that transforms the producers into consumers. Classic. So this thread feels triply important to me.

And it could even be regular-ass companies! An insurance company could make an LLM that has a lot of use for a lot of folks and isn’t evil! Or a supermarket. Like… it’s not exclusive to giant evil tech tycoons!

Not at all. Virtually all of those are addressable or have already been addressed by others’ efforts.

Love this. I just started thinking about what it'd take to provide an LLM to at least my neighborhood community. Do folks in this thread know good resources to start learning in this direction?

Watching the last decade of shit unfold onto the world as opposition is completely and, to my eyes, wilfully unprepared for it has been a souring experience. I’ve been working these trenches a long time. The left don’t want to do what it takes to win the 21st century, and that may well kill us all.

Hard agree here because I’m a Canadian watching the US careen off into extreme RW chaos and accept so many awful things, while every individual American I know is kind and decent. Most worldwide don’t have education to understand tech like this, but we expect our Governments to take precautions.

oh that was a poor choice of analogy, I see, sorry I wasn't meaning to focus on the energy cost of ai, just that a worker owned company isn't a total solution because the workers that now own the company would like to make money

With some open source models we might be able to get close enough to the proprietary tools. Especial cause open source only lags by 9 months or so. Totally doable

not using this as thought termination, more restating the power imbalance problem; current models are so powerful precisely because they are made by people who give no fucks, competing with today's SOTA with any level of care will be quite hard and may take years, while SOTA continues to advance

The technology is too centralized that means its problems are also centralized.