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Listen everyone. I’ve see classified stuff before. This in the Atlantic is the kind of stuff that gets the highest classification. I had to have TS clearance to hear the names of the people we targeted in Iraq when i was with TF16 and 17. And still some names were withheld until op was over….

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To even pretend that this stuff that Secdef sent was ok and not the highest classification since it came BEFORE the attack and was clearly referring to certain intelligence sources is insane and clearly a lie. Defend this if you want, but you can’t defend with any credibility

There is no defending this. Spin as hard as they might, at the end of the day, EVERY Dems in office need yell, scream, and make it know that they will "protest vote" NO on all future GOP-led bills until these people are fired. Our nation's security demands it. Our country it. We demand it.

No one, besides the usual idiots, believe that this was not a clearly gross military intel leak. Yet this republican adm is at full speed to gaslight and pivot the hell out of it, and I tell you that it will work as it has worked the past 10 years.

The problem is that Trump gish gallops scandals so we can't focus on every one. If this were a Democrat administration, this would be the worst scandal and the GOP wouldn't stop talking about it for years. Trump will do something worse within a week.

Yes and - Democrats & press need to stop taking that bait. First thing I said was “I can’t wait to see what awful thing they do to get everyone to stop talking about this.” Ignore the next distraction. We have to learn to stay focused. MAGA has much better messaging coordination & discipline.

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But. They don’t give a f..k. About rules, regulations, laws, they are fascists and probably a little stupid. I don’t understand why Americans don’t organize mass demonstrations? Why are they ok with the democracy being destroyed? It’s so scary watching from Europe how USA becomes a fascist state.

Yes I did. But I am not sure if there will be any consequences. It is like in a dystopian movie. And we fear that Trump will trade us in Europe with Putin. They have the same fascist and geopolitical thinking.

There is no defense. Hegseth is a total looser drunkard and it shows every time he opens his mouth and also apparently his texting too. Such a tragedy for our country , these bozos don’t even try to be professional.

Republicans have proven they care nothing about credibility or actual patriotism, only raw unchecked power. The Republican Party exists only as a crime family doing the bidding of their chosen mob boss, Donald J Trump. There is no honor among the thieves and traitors of the GOP.

I swear they're going to end up blaming the screw up on Goldberg. Probably prosecute him. Probably say he tricked them somehow. This administration lies -- it's what they do. All they gotta do now is come up with a wild ass insane function just plausible enough for MAGA morons to swallow whole.

Thank you for continuing to provide your informed perspective. That context is not known to many, and makes clear the seriousness of the breach in the face of the administration's attempt to downplay this as "accidents happen".

They’ll look you in the face and lie like rugs. I think they’ve taken lying lessons from the Trumpanzee. They figure if they say it long enough and loud enough everybody including the Democrats in Congress will believe them but they haven’t had enough practice like their boss has to pull that off

As bad as it is (& it is for sure), isn't it a bigger issue to figure out how many classified conversations they've had on an app that auto deletes messages?? Where is the culpability and accountability?

So ironic that when the MAL docs case was ongoing, I remember hearing how "overly classified" everything was so the idea that this critical information was not classified at all is silly. Also, if sensitive military information about a strike isn't classified, what the hell would be? Blatant lies.

Rump: I don’t know anything about this, it was Biden’s fault and Hillary’s emails that started all this ( that I know nothing about). Hegseth? I hardly know the guy. And still, NOTHING will be done and no consequences!

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JUDAS: Okay, guys. We're going to have a group dinner and then go for a walk in the garden.  GAIUS: 👍 MAXIMUS: 👊🦅🔥 BRUTUS: How will we know which one is our target? JUDAS: I'll give him a kiss. MAXIMUS:  GAIUS: Whatever works. SIMON PETER: WTF, Judas?! (Sent from Signal)

Say it loud, say it often, say it relentlessly brook no argument from the these reckless, careless, INEPT, unfocused, unprofessional & absolute incompetents they are 100% WRONG. let them whine till the cows come home and try to throw sand, They cannot CANNOT be allowed to get away with this.

FOX, Dir. of CIA Ratcliff & MAGA leadership/talking heads are all saying this breach of SCIF protocol & dissemination of military intelligence is no big deal. Seems like a VERY big deal to me, putting our airmen, soldiers & seaman in great danger. These eedjits in an unsecured chat should be fired.

Do we remember the "But Her Emails" whiners? Hillary's emails are NOTHING compared to this. A private server in a FORMER PRESIDENTS home. Who had S Clearance an well as herself. This is something we shouldn't let go of. Trump's picks are unfit for office just like him. We are NOT SAFE under them.

Well stated! Any current Allie needs to pivot immediately from disclosing information to the US government, especially when it comes to their own national security. The EU needs to do a complete 180 on the US regarding Ukraine as they’re on the doorstep with Russia.

During my time in German army (Electronic Warfare), we had S2 officers, who were testing soldiers in EMC. They put a USB-Stick with S2 written on the floor and watched, what the soldiers are doing with it. Every single soldier I met knew pretty well, that this is classified. These crooks here don't.

I wonder if Congress (or reporters using FOIA) could obtain the Army & DOD records for the mandatory training taken by Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hegseth, etc. on the handling of classified information, electronic security, information warfare, etc A quick way to prove they were lying through their teeth.

Pam Bondi won’t charge anybody. She’s too busy going after people that light Teslas on fire and she still has that “lock her up” file from Trump’s first term sitting in an inbox that needs to get worked. A pardon on the way out is going to save her freedom but why isn’t she being disbarred?

And now we know for sure that Gabbard and Ratcliffe perjured themselves in front of the Senate yesterday. Now she's trying to say she "misremembered" in the House hearing. In Gay Land we would say to that stupid lie: "QUEEN, PLEASE."

I think I can speak for every Republican in Congress when I say that we will happily defend it without fear of loss of credibility, because we have none to lose. As the saying goes, "Sometimes, nothing can be a real cool hand."

They don't care about credibility. They care about POWER. Strutting incompetence and carelessness with NO consequences shows their power. They protect the boss, and the boss protects them. THAT is the message in all this. Even the power to LIE and "shape reality" as they do, shows their power.

Until the Rep party in House and Senate step up and do their jobs with as much enthusiasm as they shower the administration with unconditional praise we are going to be in very big trouble. It's just unfathomable

Supporting this coup IS their job. They now work for the party, not the people. The sooner we understand this, The sooner we can address it. And we need to make it very widely understood before midterms, even before the April 1 special elections

The fact that nothing meaningful will happen is infuriating. Even if they resign, that's all it'll be. No real investigation or what would be warranted charges. They're lawless because they know they can be without real consequence.

Seriously, do MAGA and their red hat army even care about actual credibility? Their whole RWM ecosystem is whitewashing the whole thing as we speak, and isn’t that credible enough for them?

We did a ton of TS intel transfer for specops when I was in the Navy but the Crypto was Milspec and TS was eyes only, and not some off the shelf app that anyone could get. This stuff is really unbelievable, and heads should roll. I do not get the US these days. It's a fucking clown show.

A true American would have turned down the SoD position knowing they themselves were wholly unqualified. True Americans want what’s best for our country, not prestige for themselves

Never forget that Trump & company follow Cohn's 3 rules: Number one: attack, attack, attack. Number two: admit nothing and deny everything. And rule number three: no matter what happens, you claim victory and never admit defeat.

Can't imagine the stress and morale issues that some service members must be going through with the 'F Troop' command putting their lives at risk and not caring at all.

Since planning attacks on other countries can be done through group chats now and none of this information is classified, they should create AOL chat rooms for future attacks. I feel like I could add some good insight. #Idiocracy2025

Serious question, because you're a Republican and I live in a bubble of Democrats (which I'm happy about, but I need other perspectives). Do you believe there is any way to put things right? What information about us DOESN'T everyone have? How do we fix this? Can we?

SecDef Hegseth’s denials of classified attack info being discussed on a Signal messaging platform is kinda like the drunk guy on the beach who pisses on a napping sun bather. when the startled sunbather wakes up and protests, the drunk gaslights by claiming it’s not piss, it’s just ocean spray. 🙄

When you spent a portion of your career safeguarding information at the TS/SAR and TS/SNTK levels and following all the rules of those programs, having our government officials disregard those rules and the importance of the information to our national security makes me want to vomit.

They were going after a Houthi leader. Doesn’t anyone recall dramatic photos of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden in the situation room when they went after bin Laden? This is the kind of shit that gets done in a SCIF only.

No official records to maintain. If they'd used secure government apps the chat would be required to be preserved as an official record. That and they're just overwhelmingly smug and unqualified for their jobs.

You don’t understand: nothing is a crime when done by Trump’s guys. And let’s compensate January 6’ers for unfairly missing out on other juicy insurrectionist opportunities.

I worked with nuclear weapons in the Navy (Trident II D5 Missiles TS/PRP). compartmentalization is something these administration morons don't understand, i.e. "Need to know". Clearance level is only part of it. "Need to know" determines what specific things they can see.

That's one of the glaring issues in this, and the previous, Trump Admin. Too many people, who shouldn't be there, included in things that they don't belong in. Compartmentalization keeps the chance of leaks down. It limits how many people have access to classified info.

Yeah. I predicted that last one yesterday. When Gabbard was testifying that they were not war plans, I knew immediately that there would be dissembling and hiding behind Congress not officially declaring war on Yemen. Interview.

My pushback would be: “When sent a military operation into sovereign airspace and bombed their territory without permission. We killed innocent civilians as collateral damage. Is there any possible chance in hell that the people of Yemen might think of that as an act of war, or of war crimes?”

I was at YT today and found several accounts claiming that was not “war plans”. I didn’t watch the hearing and I was wondering what MAGAts were saying. They were repeating that. Now I get it. They are working too hard to manage this fuckup.

Trump has little to no respect for Vets or those serve to protect America He acts as though they are toys who's lives don't matter. These brave men and women are someone's child, they're parents, they're husbands and wives, they're loved. They deserve a "commander in chief" who appreciates them.

As a layman, with no military background, I’m looking at these text messages, and yes, you’re correct: These were classified details. Not for public consumption.

But these guys have rewritten the rules. It’s only classified if Don Don says it is, and he can declassify things with merely a thought. Also, I would expect that he has given his trusted consiglieres the power to act in his name exactly as he does.

Those of us on the inside are worried. Hubby is active duty, 18 yrs in, two deployments. Every day is another gut punch & reason to be concerned. We are working on an exit strategy in case military members are forced to choose b/w their oath to the Constitution or the orange man’s executive orders.

Writing you from the Netherlands. Sorry to hear that you are in this situation, but on the other hand I hope a lot ( most ) of the military members will resign or refuse to take undemocratical orders. MADA > Make America Democratic again. ( not specifically the DEM party but the system )

We hope the same thing, but we are preparing just in case that doesn’t happen. It’s shocking how much of our country has been lead astray by the current administration and how complicit and lackadaisical the current government is being about all this. Not all Americans support what’s going on!!

pretty obvious it's highly classified. The repugnantans are just doing more of what they do daily, anyway: LIE. It is all they do. Lie, cheat, steal, backstab and kick helpless groups when they've got them down. The worst of humanity, all under 1 umbrella.

Speechless at such incompetence. Pete is making Trump look very bad. Maybe he’ll fire him but Pete probably knows too much on Trump administration 🤷‍♀️

Adam Kinzinger - your comments on this are appreciated. When will Barack Obama and others who "know things" going to weigh in on the severity of this so-called "little mistake". It's embarrassing & further erodes our relationships with our allies that they say need to "pick up the tab". Terrible

Hegsdeth went on Fox and categorically denied every fact. The propaganda machine has got to be stopped, it can't be ad revenue over country. But, this isn't 3rd party propaganda. He spoke directly; blatant US government propaganda #RESIST

I needed a Secret clearance to simply do a few screens of classified CBT courseware art for a US Navy, and even I recognize those details would have the highest national security classification. Do they seriously believe that the vast majority of Americans are buying their excuses & justifications?

I have a basic secret clearance which is about the lowest level to view SIPRnet and sit in low level intelligence brieifings. If I got caught sending any of that over Signal I'd be absolutely done and needing a good lawyer. The fact that nothing has happened yet is insane.

Well, that would also be a coup. So which coup do you do? The damage has already been done. Best we can hope for is to stop the bleeding, but I think the bloodshed is coming for real.

I just read the full thing on the Atlantic. And I suddenly had the worst sinking feeling that this was all intentional. These are TV people wanting to look like Top Gun. It reads like it was scripted to show big dudes doing important shit (with prayers) despite those sandbagging Europeans.

1. The nature of the info makes it classified. 2. The info was shared in an unsecure method. 3. Since unsecured, our adversaries could intercept it and use it to our disadvantage. Warfighter lives lost, just to top the list. Remember info today can be transmitted in the blink of an eye.

Been there, done that! They treat Top Secret like it was an ordinary conversation. Can you just imagine what the Russians, N. Koreans, Iranians, and Chinese, are doing with this stuff? Now, no former ally will give us anything but bupkis!

Wish they had balls to admit their mistakes and repercussions rather than dismiss it so cavalierly smh and one step closer to authoritarianism

Why weren’t they in the situation room? I get this faint image that they’re all sitting back, feet up, eating & chatting as if this were an everyday conversation …if so, it makes it that much scarier that they have no concept of what they’re discussing & the impact it’ll have. It’s not a video game!

Please step back and see this for what it is. They broke the law endangered the mission and national security and released a name of a CIA agent in the clear. But in Trump/Putin's mind even this is a success creating more Division/Chaos for our country.

Yep. Cut and dry. This is a gross violation of security protocols. Not only should all involved have their clearances revoked charges should be laid. It’s called chain of command and works both ways, top to bottom and bottom up. Stand a post.

UNTIL TODAY - "Target Packages" Have ALWAYS Been #CLASSIFIED. "Sources And Methods" Targeting Done Only On Classified Systems. Original Classification Authority (OCA) - HAS Changed - NOT For The Good Of #America. Enemies Can Now Take Greater Advantage of #USA WEAKENED Military Leadership.

I'm still flabbergasted that since the lat/long of the targets wasn't in the chat, they are saying it's all good. It ain't hard to glean where they are talking about. Or , just any of our targets anywhere, if leaked, would start moving.

They're Just Mincing Words'! They Know (Or Have Been Schooled By Now) on the Differences Between the terms, "War Plans", and, "Target Packages". BOTH ARE CLASSIFIED! They can SAY, "Nobody Texted Any War Plans!" They CANNOT say, "Nobody Texted Any Target Packages!"

This has been driving me crazy, due to the mincing of words & we can fake out the civilians. -CENTCOM. Welp that's easy to find what part of the world that is in. -Discussion of the body of water and who depends on it with actual %. (Sans name, we know it's in CENTCOM w/o blue force dominance 🧵

We need suggestions of what we can do to Republicans. This is actually a civil war because Republicans voted to kill us by taking away our food and livelihood

Does no one in Trump’s cabinet understand two-step verification and strong password creation?Jeez. I can’t even login to my vision program without spending 2 hours setting up a new id and password. Why don’t these people have biometric access???

We know it was classified, GOP knows it was classified. The idiots & JG on chat knew it was classified. The convicted felon, adjudicated sexual rapist sociopath 🤡 knows it's classified. So, no brainer ... pun intended! All of them should be fired. But we know how this will (not) end ...

If no one goes to Leavenworth for this, all security breach convicts should be pardoned, and anyone dishonorably discharged for mishandling of sensitive data should be reinstated with reparations. Just like the J6 Felons.

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Agreed. It's his tell. Create a crisis, and while everyone is focused on that, do something truly vile. The tariffs are a distraction, too. Every time he announces more tariffs, it is a blatant attempt to keep something else off the front page.

Something I'm confused about: Trump's reaction to any kind of criticism is always the same - deny, attack the accuser, and fly into a Truthy Social ALL CAPS RAGE. So far, he's been remarkably quiet and almost calm about Signal-gate. What's up with that?? Where is the RAGE? Where are the threats?

I hope Mr. Goldberg has been provided some sort of security detail (obvi not Govt). And I hope he remains only on the 1st floor of any building just in case Uncle Vova is calling the shots.

Again, Congress will not do anything about this! Republicans are too corrupt and democrats are just cowards that the media ignores. We, the people have to go after the media and the maga judges if we want to turn this around and get democracy back on track.

I read an article by Lucian Truscott about the time he was embedded in a unit fighting in Iraq and the secrecy involved in getting food delivered to those men. By contrast, the stupidity of the people in this administration is staggering.

This just doesn’t sit right. This is even too stupid for the Orange gang. I have to wonder if the Atlantic wasn’t added intentionally as a diversion. A diversion designed to distract us from the EO signed yesterday that attempts to take control of elections.

This is a guy who stole boxes of classified documents from the WH and stuck them near the shitter at his golf club and still avoided any consequences. This is horrible and nothing will happen to them.

This is true. You entire country is compromised. There isn’t a spine to be found in 99.5% of your politicians - a few exceptions noted - weird that it’s the women of colour and the gays…

I have no idea how we’re gonna get out of this! This is getting so scary. Allies are enemies enemies are pretend allies. This makes absolutely no sense. Everybody knows it. No one has to prove anything we can see it for ourselves. No one is in charge. We’re just winging it.

What is the penalty for lying to Congress under oath? I heard Tulsi say there were NO weapons, timeline or targets on the texts. If Congress won’t do its job, why are we paying them? Can you please clarify?

Oh that’s the neat part, Putin is the one paying their salaries, so that’s where their allegiance lies You are paying their expenses, sometimes in iron, some times in silver but most times in blood MAGA will not stop if it’s not stopped. Blood and guts is what it takes to stop Nazis