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There is a reason TikTok is so good at figuring out what you want to see, and why it’s better than everything else: it’s a weapon, and the best weapon is one you don’t know exists, or worse, one you think you can’t live without

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They’re all weapons, however the US constitution protects 1st amendment speech of USPersons. USPerson in this context means citizens, legal permanent residents and organizations made up of them. So it’s a lot harder to take action against American media companies than foreign ones.

Now imagine if the people can love & think about democracy the way they think & love TikTok. The world would be better place than it was before tRump & his cronies came. TikTok is a weapon against humanity bcuz it have people physically attacking others & killing our children with stupid challenges

I agree, especially after the events in the past week. Something feels really off. TT is coming up for me, but it's not TT. It was all Chinese vids to start (in manadarin too), and now I'd have to reactivate my account. Huh??!🤔🤔 WHAT HAPPENED IN THE DARK, TIKTOK??!

All your kids are giving their data to the Chinese government and you as a parent have no idea. Imagine what they will do with identity theft alone of your children. Their lives could be ruined before they are adults.

With the data they collect, they can easily manipulate young Americans into a more anti-American stance. Bit by bit. 1 feed at a time. China is a very patient adversary. 10-20 yrs of manipulation WILL make a difference.

As an American... China doesn't need to do anything. America did this to itself. Most of us feel abandoned, betrayed, and outraged by our government. For very valid reasons.

I never even used the app, when I finally did & the algorithm eventually showed me """anti-American""" content (ppl who want America to be a better place & feel its fundamentally failing) i was like, oh look, ppl who feel the exact same way I have for many years, same as on Twitter, reddit, bluesky

True with 1 big difference. TikTok is tailored to young people. TikTok collects more data from users under 26 yrs old than FB, IG & Twitter collects from users over 26 yrs old COMBINED! Their algorithm is different from the others. It's much better at what it does. That's what scares professionals.

Assuming that criticism and dissent can only come from foreign manipulation is incredibly right wing. As if your nation is so perfect and pure that there could be no genuine reason to be unhappy.

This statement is chock full of assumptions. Please point me to the part where I said A) Dissent only comes from foreign adversaries. B) America is perfect.

Does AMERICA provide decently priced livable commodities? No? Is the untied states the only developed country *without* universal HC? Yup. Make me want to stay here you old fuck.

As soon as I saw all the constant, BLATANT disinformation about Gaza, the economy, and the election, but was repeatedly told "no violation found," it was driven home that TikTok is exactly as dirty as Congress thought. It's a cesspool of mis- and dis-information. Naturally, Trump loves it.

When they sucked up to Trump by name, it confirmed they're crooked. They manipulated voters to get Trump in office. China wanted Trump because he's stupid and easily manipulated. He's a puppet, enamored of Xi Jinping. Harris would have stood up to China. TikTok is corrupt and will be "TrumpTok" now.

I don't dispute that there's an intentional propagandist narrative now...I disagree that there wasn't one before. It was just a different narrative. We just swapped being spoon fed one anti-American propaganda for another.

Block, block, block. Mark as not interested. It's definitely compromised, but we managed to turn Tumblr conservatives away in the 2010s, it could be accomplished again. Give them none of the engagement they're seeking.

Maybe they are just trying to kill social media altogether except the ones they control. Trump threw both houses of congress under the bus along with the Supreme Court. And small business and entrepreneurs. If baby boomers didn’t garner generational wealth, it’s over for the middle class.

Because those are US owned and therefore give campaign contributions. That's it. That's all of it. And they didn't ban other Chinese apps because their donors weren't worried about them. Yet. Give it time.

Meta and Twitter have billionaires behind them selling ads to get even richer, not a government that wants to restore regional hegemony from its past and has wet dreams of dominating the world. But Americans are too stupid to see the difference.

Yeah, American Billionaires, famously don’t have wet dreams of world domination. The fact that you can see the problem when it’s a bunch of Chinese guys and not when it’s a cracker in a suit is exactly the problem here. Zuck ain’t your friend just because he shares your eye shape.

I agree Adam, but I feel the same about FB (weponized from 2015 till today), and all the other social media apps. Is China an adversary, yes, but I feel like the others are also adversarial to America, to Americans, and to both truth and the rule of law.

Respectfully Adam, the fact that you were in Congress for so long, yet were unable to ban weapons of mass destruction that mawed toddlers and regular citizens' the travesty! Please spare me the faux outrage about an app millions of Americans found livelihood through as a weapon.

Gun lobby is powerful at buying legislators & ginning up voters to fear that Congress is taking their guns away. Legislators are afraid of banning assault weapons. They would lose their jobs. Chinese are using TikTok to influence thinking of users & collecting their data. Adam is correct.

The difference is, unfortunately, guns are a constitutional right. That makes it really tricky to legislate around (then add in the tyranny of the NRA). Access to foreign propaganda machines is not a constitutional right — so it’s easier to legislate around.

When I tutored Chinese students, we had to show maps of China as owning all of the South China sea and Taiwan. All lessons were constructed by a government board, which was installed once the company became very profitable. All western teachers were fired. Only Chinese could teach children.

If TT was run by Americans and flooded with Russian propaganda you wouldn't have a single negative thing to say about it. You can you take the republican out of the party, but you can't take the racism out of the republican

Congratulations on your preemptive Pardon Adam. 😊😊😊. I am so happy the last POTUS ended his job protecting Americans especially those that stood tall against fascism. I literally feel like we are witnessing the second hit of the twin towers… I hope to God now people start paying attention.

Yes, propaganda is a weapon. Those TikTok fans replying with rage are justifying this rage by pretending that what Kinzinger said here was 'gunned-down kids don't matter.' Clearly he said nothing of the kind and implied nothing of the kind. Those posters have been successfully propagandized.

It’s not “propaganda” to be mad that that the government is banning an individual app for privacy and national security concerns instead of attempting to address those same concerns across all social media platforms.

Exactly. It's so frustrating. These kids need to read a book like 1984, rather than watch 10 second summaries of them by someone who only read the excerpt.

Not gonna lie, it actually looks like here on Bluesky there's a lot of older folks defending TikTok. Maybe they're just not that well informed or underestimate just how dark the internet can get.

Correct They literally even have phrases, like the "I don't care if China knows I like cat videos" one. I swear if I didn't know I was on Bluesky I'd think they're paid trolls. This too is a cult...

If it is a “weapon”, then why did both major Presidential candidates use it in their election campaigns? Surely that is too “dangerous”? It has a highly effective algorithm that prioritizes the user experience and is the first social media app in America that actually understands social commerce.

My understanding is that it's not about data collection like bank account numbers etc. It's being used to influence millions of people w/ pro terrorist, anti America, pro Russia, anti gov't material.

All true. But, correct me if I'm wrong, aren't you also implying that he thinks Facebook is ok? Maybe he wants to focus on TikTok for this post. Why does he have to bring up Facebook? Does his every post have to distinguish what makes Facebook a problem while also discussing what makes TikTok worse?

It was a valuable tool for small businesses, animal rescues, independent musicians and artists, independent journalists, and breaking news worldwide. I will defend its existence til I am cold in the ground.🤷‍♀️

I believe it was said that the Chinese government was data mining #TicToc members early on. I took that seriously and stayed away. The U.S. government banned TicToc for a good reason... PS: Another failure of the For-Profit media in maintaining that threat. Rather than normalizing it.

The Chinese government can literally just buy the same data on the open market if they want to, they don't need an app. American companies already buy and sell your data freely. Besides, I trust China more than I trust Zuckerberg anyway.

And it's literally the same weapon as what is in ANY media platform that curates content. This has nothing to do with how people are seeing media and everything to do with the Rebuplicans inability to control it so people see what they want them to see.

Congress passes GOP bill dictating TikTok sale overwhelmingly, POTUS signs it into law. SCOTUS upholds law. TikTok goes dark for a few hours, lifts embargo when GOP president-elect promises to overrule law with executive order. China wins & proves that US is no longer a nation of laws.

Any platform, even TikTok that people can't live without, whether it is simply satisfying or if you build your lively hood on it making snippets others find satisfying, it is a broken system.

What “favor” did Trump get back from TikTok? Trump wants control of all the media. ‪👇‬‪👇‬ bsky.app/profile/mile...

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Trump reversed his position on TikTok because he got something in return. Trump is transactional. Could be money or fixing the TikTok algorithm to promote Trump and deprioritize opposing voices.

TikTok is back on. I am very uncomfortable looking at the first few reels. I had to get off. I’m realizing just like I left X for Bluesky and TikTok for Redbook I can’t go back. If they take off redbook I’ll go to utube. I can’t partake. I now know the true meaning of RESIST.

You can’t go live!That was the trade off! Going live on TT is now 100% unavailable. He didn’t want protestors going live tomorrow. Thousands of MAGA and protestors in DC. We have to rely on legacy media to report it. This is bullshit. AND they moved it inside. It’s all about control of what we see.

#TikTok users just transferred to another app that embodies the same characteristics as TikTok did: a #dynamic #lifestyle #platform for young people to share experiences, explore a real, beautiful, and diverse #world, and find the lifestyle they desire, like #RedNote. It's a form of protest 😁💪‼️

What about the weapons used to cause physical harm to our children when they’re in school? You and the rest of the GOP never really cared about anyone’s safety, you only care about control. You have the power to have real influence to better American lives but choose to waste time and money on this.

Sorry Adam, I am a pessimistic nihilist. Tik Tok is a tool. Invasive, yes? But what isn't. Let's not be naive. If people in our country weren't out for money but welfare we would be thriving. 1/2

I have been living without Twitter/X & Meta for years. Why are they still here? They're vile propaganda machines. I wasn't worried about Chinese manipulation watching cat, craft, and food videos. Let's be real here, the U.S. govt can't stand not being able to control the narrative. Full stop.

I mean, i dispute the idea that social media platforms are a weapon. I think they can be weaponised, but that's not the same thing. And yes, you should want a diverse range of media. I don't know why this is even a question.

Our government is sowing division and hatred. The lefts vs the rights. The haves vs the have nots. It creates BS narratives for us to fight about so we don’t come together to fight together for the things that really matter.TT threatens the ability to obfuscate and distract us.

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Donald Trump along with Steve Bannon took our data and created a populist movement called MAGA. Then they weaponized them to spread a virus that killed 18.2 million people…and you are worried about a damn app. They want TikTok’s search engine, they want their fullfillment centers, they want their $.

You may be right. We are also a nation of people who just re-elected an insane game show host/ rapist / convict / insurrectionist to be president. We have bigger problems. I want my tik tok distraction. 😂

You come from a place of non-participation. There are pitfalls there, but the people helped bring this behemoth into existence; regular folks that enjoy interacting with others besides what’s on TV. Is that hard to get? There may be some escapism involved as well, however legislation is key.

TikTok is back on. I am very uncomfortable looking at the first few reels. I had to get off. I’m realizing just like I left X for Bluesky and TikTok for Redbook I can’t go back. If they take off redbook I’ll go to utube. I can’t partake. I now know the true meaning of RESIST.

Exactly, we've seen this before... the billionaires gave something that was fun, then weaponized, then took it off, turned back on while they MADE YOU FOLLOW the orange gang. They know you're addicted and you'll stay... not me i know bullsugar when I see it... I am NEVER going back EVER

Yes I do mean RedNote. They all have my data. The difference is our government is trying to control what I see. I’m 77 years old born in the USA. I can’t have that. As far as China having my data, they already have that too because Zukerbery sold it to them.

The problem would solve itself if we outlawed this type of data collection as a whole, regardless of whether the company is Chinese or otherwise. There’s a whole different argument to be had about the manipulative capacities of these nebulous privately owned and curated algorithms.

Just heard from TikTok users on Europe that TikTok got so much better in the period where it was banned in US. Not so much terrible language, not so many trolls instigating arguments, not so many bots, very little advertising. How come?

The majority of TikTok users were lamenting the American absence and glad we were back. America is a leader in trends, culture and content creation and it’s reflected in most FYPs on Tik Tok. If people didn’t WANT American videos, the algorithm wouldn’t show them as many.

Hold the horses, Adam. They draw their power through Peer Influence & Herd Mentality. Facebook, Assbook, tik tok, ding-dong & other similar medias rely on these human attributes to draw ppl. Just remember: You can live & will survive w/o them They will not survive w/o you (Users)

Kindness matters when you're not being attacked by your own government. And yes, we absolutely DO know social media has been weaponized. Facebook was the first one to do that since before 2016. Nobody in China gives af about your info except to SELL YOU SHT. If you're so worried about cyber

First of all, if YOU'RE going to call someone a moron, you should probably spell everything correctly. 2nd, I couldn't care less if China spies on me. All they want is to know what they can sell to me.. Just don't buy shit online. What tf else is your precious data good for? NOTHING. Google spies

on you too. So does Siri. Facebook is literally the worst when it comes to your data. They don't even need to sell it. Its all, right there, on their servers & companies, EVEN ONES BASED IN CHINA, can access all of it, right from their own Facebook page. No hacking needed.

thats not the case that needs making. the burden of argument lies on the ones spreading fear. that said, I understand. You have been fed propaganda your entire life about china being your mortal enemy. But china is not some rogue state hellbent on our destruction, they are just a normal nation 1/2

they have done many bad things, it's true. But nothing they do is outside the norms set by the united states. Did you know that despite being almost 4x the population of the USA, they have 200k fewer people in prison? If they are an authoritarian state, surely that makes us far worse.

where are our - phones, digital gizmos, appliances, TVs.. hmmmm ~everything in our homes/cars/ offices manufactured? Are all of these other items (with ~any connectivity to the internet) free & clear of tracking software? US firms (banks, hotel chains, etc) have had giant data breaches- and.?

and now, courtesy & exclusively because of trump's Fd up 2018-20 failed tariffs- $28B tax dollars to US farmers who lost exports to China & from trump's gross failures- China is now in the Western Hemisphere. Argentina & Brazil (ag), Venezuela (oil). Will Repubs address this REAL issue???

That is hypothetical. You may not even have a TikTok account. Closing TikTok has caused over a million people to switch to Rednote, which is in China, and all of the data is in China. Plus, millions of jobs have been lost. I thought you were better than other Republicans, but now I know you aren't.

And that's why we have to get more clever at language. The algorithm isn't actually THAT smart. They can't design it to catch allusions to other things that mean something the reader will understand. Be more subtle than references to guillotines. Get creative.

No Adam, don't. He was my Rep. Voting against the John Lewis Voting Rights Act made no sense then, makes no sense now. Just because he found his balls Jan 6, means absolutely nothing.