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Science needs crazies, with each one included to the extent that they get things correct. Scientists should have no problem with shutting out outsiders who do little but lie, but because they shun weirdos like me en masse, they risk both missing genuine insight and misunderstanding the liars.

Extending this, for each procedure on a given sample or set of subsamples, there'll be relationship between the DISTRIBUTION of results for your measured variables M and the DISTRIBUTION of true values for the outcome variable O. (If M isn't O, M's a set of proxy variables.)

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In cases like that, a good question to ask is: when should we heighten our standards for what counts as a sufficiently reliable instrument or procedure?

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As for what I was talking about in OP: if you can control the distribution of M as a proxy for O, then you should have an idea of what makes M better fit O. Wanna minimize M's variance? Want a particular average of M to be close to an average of O? Some mix of both? There's a summary stat for that.

Extending this, for each procedure on a given sample or set of subsamples, there'll be relationship between the DISTRIBUTION of results for your measured variables M and the DISTRIBUTION of true values for the outcome variable O. (If M isn't O, M's a set of proxy variables.)

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In cases like that, a good question to ask is: when should we heighten our standards for what counts as a sufficiently reliable instrument or procedure?

Crucially, you should at least have a rough idea of how to transform M into O. Why care about distributions? People might not just care about the absolute displacement from the mode of O and the transformed mode of M. The same gap might be more significant to them if the distributions are narrower.

Not sure if you even need NCT. Genes are not the fundamental parts of biological organisms, because they merely secure the upkeep and reproduction of patterns in cell metabolisms. Culture can't just affect genes and/or relative and absolute reproduction rates. I've written briefly about it before.

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As for reproduction: after reading link.springer.com/article/10.1... I much later got the idea that in proto-life, survival begat growth which then begat reproduction, all to maintain and spread sub-biotic trends over bigger scales. So a REAL reductionist would have to talk in terms of that.

If you're working in a politically salient science (like sociology and biology), then you gotta examine the most dissident-coded positions as well as the currently most popular ones. If you haven't studied "cranks" comprehensively, you're probably underestimating their reliance on the mainstream.

Like it or not, elitist "cranks" are more ascendant than ever, and your beloved institutions and disciplines aren't safe unless they support them. They're using widespread untruths (conceptual and empirical) and mistakes, and taking them to "honest" conclusions. You wanna stop that? Then fight it.

-organisms (and maybe also parts of them, like brains) model environments instead of being affected by them, as if passively reacting? I don't think that organisms or evolutionary processes literally anticipate anything, but is it precisely true or otherwise useful to say they actually do?

Since the microblogging part of this website isn't designed for long and potentially nuanced discussions I'd prefer to talk about this over direct messages, some instant messaging app or even emails. I got nowhere with a tangle of related philosophy and biology issues and I want some help.

And strict "genetic" "reductionisms" and "determinisms" are often extremely silly: non-genetic influences DO have impacts, and we're no more gene vessels than sub-genetic chemical pattern vessels. But what about saying "behavior's just genes plus stuff there's no scientific reason to care about"?

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A scholar feels let down by Kathleen Stock, someone else jumps in and aggressively blames that feeling of betrayal on the scholar, saying they should've cared about transphobia more, and then I fire back, noting this familiar variant of the "I told you so, idiot" rhetorical routine.

But that scholar reacts by... blocking me...? Not a fan of drama? To be fair, I've been trying for a while to get their attention, on the surface to give them some very pessimistic thoughts on context about topics, but really because I wanna ask them about some stuff they study in private.

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I can at least answer this with a transhumanist response: if we want to preserve our personhoods and psychological powers, we don't strictly need bodies that contain replicators (e.g. DNA variants). We can already modify our bodies and even change our motivations with procedures and medications.

But is that warranted? If so, could I go much further? Have I just been thinking about metaphysics all along? Does any form of this "reductionism" make any sense? I would prefer to discuss this elsewhere since I can't provide so much nuance in a Bluesky thread. You got emails or instant messaging?

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That might spell doom for human freedom and flexibility in any way that doesn't just reinforce successful means of reproduction, which would already be biased towards behaviours and social structures massively conserved in our species's evolutionary lineage. Families, sex, hierarchies, more.

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The reinforcement's not just because our environments are largely the products of biological systems which differ ever more due to direct and indirect genetic effects (e.g. extended phenotypes), but also because organisms with the most successful behavior as predisposed more by genes reproduce most.

Science needs crazies, with each one included to the extent that they get things correct. Scientists should have no problem with shutting out outsiders who do little but lie, but because they shun weirdos like me en masse, they risk both missing genuine insight and misunderstanding the liars.

OF COURSE I'm sad that I can't just email or approach busy scientists and try to learn things with them, or at least learn where they go wrong. I can stick my head in books until I remember to breathe, but I'm far from perfect at extracting legit understanding. The size of literature worsens this.

And I want to discuss ideas I've picked up elsewhere, including from cranks, at least to ease the trouble I have, but also to make scientists aware of this trouble. I might be an extremely angry pessimist, but I WANT to have some faith in what I know isn't entirely either useless or worse.