Rob de Vries

Rob de Vries

@rob-devries.bsky.social

Quantitative Sociologist at the University of Kent. Author: Critical Statistics - Seeing Beyond the Headlines (https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/critical-statistics-9781137609793/)

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Rob de Vries reposted

One of the fundamental presumptions that needs to be challenged here is that peer review should be a gatekeeping exercise used to exclude science🧪 from the scholarly record. Dissemination and peer review need to be decoupled. Check out a one new model : publish-review-curate.org

publish-review-curate.orgPublish | Review | CurateThis is a joint initiative of COAR and ASAPbio, with funding from Arcadia as part of the COAR Notify Project
Philip N Cohen@philipncohen.com

LLMs, asked to "peer" review 200 papers published this year in top science and medicine journals, either rejected or recommended major revisions 76% of the time. Telling the LLMs the paper was a revision paper made them much more generous. arxiv.org/abs/2610.31414

Watching 70up and there is a lot of talk (from the participants) about opportunity but in reality only modest, short-range upward mobility (Nick as a possible exception). And - strikingly - *no meaningful downward mobility from elite backgrounds*.

All four of the children from wealthy backgrounds end up in very advanted positions: Andrew (Solicitor) Charles (TV producer and commisioning editor) John (QC - there are also several gratuitous shots of his palatial home and grounds) Suzy (bereavement counsellor, married to a solicitor)

This type of social science - big, simple ideas based on 'a certain amount of evidence', and shorn of negative or complicating evidence - is one of the biggest problems in the field

Replace 'creative spirit' with something academic and this is what you want academics to be doing. But the incentives aren't there. Why spend your time or full integrity on quality, when prestige and progression depend on you moving onto the next paper or grant?

it's a shame David Graeber didn't live to see the rise of AI. It would have really helped him test his Bullshit Jobs theory. Basically on the principle that if an AI can do a task without much supervision, then it probably wasn't a task that needed doing...

The basic idea being that AI is a bit like factory automation. We'll still have 'artisinal' human produced work (like we still have handmade shoes), but AI will be producing the 'factory' version. The difference is that people need shoes. People don't need AI generated presentations

Proposal: all arguments about the validity of traditional economic principles (efficient markets, meritocracy) should start with the fact that history's first trillionaire is a racist fuckwit running 4 unprofitable companies

Exactly this. Jess Phillips describing her mother as an NHS worker when she was a senior executive. People describing Thatcher's dad as a 'grocer' when he owned two shops and was Mayor of Grantham

Will Jennings📉🗳️@drjennings.bsky.social

This isn't helped by those politicians who tell selective stories about their social background to make themselves seem more working class, or more middle class for the super-posh, than they actually are.

My 'selective' social background stories: 1. Raised by a single mum who worked as a school dinner lady, lived in a council house, grandad worked in a factory 2. Grandad was a factory manager, lived in a 4 bed detached house with an acre of land, mum was a council administrator

Rob de Vries reposted

Replying to @drjennings.bsky.social

This isn't helped by those politicians who tell selective stories about their social background to make themselves seem more working class, or more middle class for the super-posh, than they actually are.

Rob de Vries reposted

just been listening to this www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m... Other problems with it, but one thing: it assumes that reading things gives a more accurate view than watching video. Given how print media sanewashes (esp.) Trump, arguably people watching video of him actually talk have the clearer view

bbc.co.ukBBC Radio 4 - Radical with Amol Rajan, The Reading Recession: Are We Making Ourselves Less Intelligent? (James Marriott)Tracing the historical relationship between reading, intelligence and democracy.

LLMs are the product of tech's (and capitalism more generally) exclusive focus on efficiency. If an idea, or a piece of art can be statistically predicted from existing work, then what's the point of using human labour to create it? /1

I understand the appeal of this idea! Extraordinary amounts of labour are devoted to just reinventing or rehashing things that already exist. Fighting this temptation requires remembering that efficiency is not the pre-eminent human value. Probably not even top five. /2

/3 There are almost always multiple possible, equally correct interpretations - and choosing between them is just as subjective (and usually ideologically informed) as attempting to determine purpose in context.

/1 Interesting because there seem to be two separate phenomena here. He references the 'angry vegans' stereotype, which Benoit Monin at Stanford has shown comes from 'moral status threat' (psychological defense against idea that people are lookind down on you).

Brian Hughes@bmhughes.bsky.social

This is actually quite brilliant, up to and including the final sentence 🔥

/2 The coffee thing clearly not a moral status threat. Is it still a status threat of a kind (as he suggests - being perceived as 'basic')? Or is there actually no threat here and the status assertion ("I am better than people who drink effete coffees") is coming from elsewhere?

The "she does not own a car..." part is so telling. They just can't conceive of a politician who isn't already rich. She's not poor, just not one of the wealthy class of people who are allowed to be 'serious' political candidates.

Michael Hobbes@michaelhobbes.bsky.social

You guys realize that taxing people to pay for services isn't socialism, right? This is just how governments work.

Are they actually using LLMs here (which doesn't seem necessary), or is this going to be a conventional statistical model that they've branded as "AI"? If it's the latter they have radically missed the public mood on having AI shoved down their throats: www.gov.uk/government/n....

gov.ukEducation Secretary sets roadmap to improve attendance levelsEvery school to be set an individual minimum target to improve attendance and set up every child to achieve and thrive.

Overheard on the train yesterday: a nice example of small ways in which a privileged background can help in getting 'top jobs'. A father and daughter discussing her career choices. She dismisses Oxbridge because their degrees are all BA and she wants to do a more scientific BSc /1

A parent who understood elite education would have been able to tell her that the 'BA' things is meaningless to the content, and of the value of 'hyperelite' educational credentials. Of course you can look that up online, but it's not the same as having it 'internalised' /2

Would be interesting to see what this looks like with prestige/social status as a dimension. Lots of 'low PMC' (e.g. journalists, creative professionals) are actually the most prestigious jobs in society - and well within most people's conception of the 'PMC'

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Business Secretary Peter Kyle: "Too often people go to university to explore research and knowledge...I want people to go to university to start businesses in our country" Welp, goodbye Arts, Humanities, Social Sciences, we had an OK run... www.lbc.co.uk/article/brit...

lbc.co.ukBritish students lack ‘drive’ of their American peers, says Business Secretary | LBCThe Business Secretary has defended comments he made at a meeting with investors where he said British students lack the ‘drive’ and ‘vigour’ of their American peers.

Rob de Vries reposted

This also just seems like a statistical fluke? 2025 isn't even over yet. It's weird to publish an article about a "trend" that applies to 6 months out of the last three decades.

Jared Holt@jaredlholt.bsky.social

Quoted here sharing my reservations about a study that says right-wing terror attacks are down — the frameworks of terrorism aren’t well suited to size up the threat of political violence and can give people the wrong impression if they don’t understand how they work www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...

Relevant to joining social media, it also contains my version of an old Stewart Lee joke: "The internet is a flood of sewage that comes unbidden into your home. Social media is like you constructed a sluice to let it in"