Angus Johnston

Angus Johnston

@angus.bsky.social

CUNY prof. Historian of, and advocate for, student organizing. @studentactivism from Twitter.

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Seems to me that if you're upset that there's not more of a student movement fighting fascism in 2026, the first place to direct your anger is the people who crushed the wave of student organizing that crested in the months immediately preceding the fascists' rise to power.

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Such a good thread both for letting you know what's going on in Paris and for showing standard police tactics. Telling protesters to disperse while blocking all the exits, singling people out with the intent to harm, and using tools that we know cause serious bodily harm? That's the cop playbook.

Stephanie Lamy@stephlamy.bsky.social

For my ENG speaking followers Unprecedented High School blockades began in the outskirts of Paris in Créteil on the 21st of Sept. National mobilisations followed on the 29th of September, the 1st and the 6th of October. The movement is ongoing and has spread both in scope and scale. #tippingpoint

Never would have occurred to me without this, but Hot Fuzz and The Wicker Man (1970s) would make a lovely little revival house double feature.

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The world would be in a much better place today if, 70 years ago, Herb Simon had won out and the new computational/math/symbolic systems research field was dubbed "complex information processing" instead of "AI".

This is a very silly framing of the relevant issue. It's like saying "if a text-to-speech converter is analyzing speech, interpreting it, and converting it to written language, but is not 'listening,' the word 'listening' has no meaning." No. "A meaning different than mine" is not "no meaning."

Will Stancil@whstancil.bsky.social

Again: what we’re doing here is defining “understanding” as “the thing that humans do.” If a model is accurately absorbing new information, solving unsolved problems of incredible difficulty, engaging in detailed back-and-forths, but is not “understanding,” the word “understanding” has no meaning.

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As is so often the case, Stancil has concluded that if someone else is saying something that's incorrect, it follows that (1) that person is egregiously wrong, (2) that person is operating in bad faith, out of animus, or out of peer pressure, and (3) Stancil's opposing claim is obviously correct.

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I was finishing law school at the same time one of my dearest friends was getting a degree in audiology, the conversation we had about the meaning of “speech” were incredible.

This is a very silly framing of the relevant issue. It's like saying "if a text-to-speech converter is analyzing speech, interpreting it, and converting it to written language, but is not 'listening,' the word 'listening' has no meaning." No. "A meaning different than mine" is not "no meaning."

Will Stancil@whstancil.bsky.social

Again: what we’re doing here is defining “understanding” as “the thing that humans do.” If a model is accurately absorbing new information, solving unsolved problems of incredible difficulty, engaging in detailed back-and-forths, but is not “understanding,” the word “understanding” has no meaning.

Whether an LLM is "understanding" is the very definition of a definitional issue. And what is common sense to one person (Will Stancil, say, or not-Will-Stancil), may not be to another (not-Will-Stancil, for instance, or in the alternative, Will Stancil.)

AIs are doing things that resemble human cognition in some ways, and don't resemble it in others. They are—and this is a thing Stancil gets right—far more capable at doing some things that only humans could do until now than some knee-jerk AI critics admit. But.

One thing I’ve noticed about the Tilly Norwood media blitz: There’s a lot of talk about an upcoming movie, but very little evidence that that movie actually … exists.

Again: "Tilly Norwood" is not a person; it is a shoddy, and also pretty gross puppet. Stop referring to it as "she," and start asking whether there might be something a bit off about wanting to promote a sexualized but also childlike "actor" that can never tell its creators or users "no."

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Oh, and one of the articles I read on a recent "Tilly Norwood" interview makes clear that the "Tilly Norwood" program they roll out for interviews is not the program they're developing for "acting" work. Which makes sense, given how different the two sets of capabilities needed are.

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Angus Johnston@angus.bsky.social

This is such a good point (the post below and the one after it). The distance from where we are to "financially successful narrative AI movie with AI actors" is vast, and the distance from there to "AI movie stars" is probably just as big, maybe bigger.

This is such a good point (the post below and the one after it). The distance from where we are to "financially successful narrative AI movie with AI actors" is vast, and the distance from there to "AI movie stars" is probably just as big, maybe bigger.

DJ Jazzy Sweater Vest@craig.agitate-discourse.org

The whole intended business model makes zero sense. Say someone wants to make an AI movie, they use prompts to produce exactly the characters they want for the story, what is there to gain by bringing a specific AI actor into the production?

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Because, again, even humans don't get to be movie stars by going on CNN and saying "I'm going to be a movie star, as soon as someone puts me in a movie." And that's not because humans haven't tried! That's a tactic humans have tried!

But it's a tactic that in the best-case scenario gives you a very different kind of celebrity than movie stardom, and one that only does THAT if you're an incredibly compelling presence, and have a (strategic or intuitive) knack for getting and holding public attention.

This is such a good point (the post below and the one after it). The distance from where we are to "financially successful narrative AI movie with AI actors" is vast, and the distance from there to "AI movie stars" is probably just as big, maybe bigger.

DJ Jazzy Sweater Vest@craig.agitate-discourse.org

The whole intended business model makes zero sense. Say someone wants to make an AI movie, they use prompts to produce exactly the characters they want for the story, what is there to gain by bringing a specific AI actor into the production?

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The way celebrity works is that the public latches on to someone they see DOING something—singing, acting, modeling, reality TV, being related to someone famous, punching strangers on TikTok, whatever. And it's that interest that enables the celebrity to get bigger, or big in a different medium.

Now, maybe the people behind "Tilly Norwood" are deluded enough to imagine that these "interviews" have a chance of themselves sparking viral celebrity, creating demand for the movie that they're claiming they're going to make, but man, that's a lousy strategy—and a lousy product to push it with.

This is such a good point (the post below and the one after it). The distance from where we are to "financially successful narrative AI movie with AI actors" is vast, and the distance from there to "AI movie stars" is probably just as big, maybe bigger.

DJ Jazzy Sweater Vest@craig.agitate-discourse.org

The whole intended business model makes zero sense. Say someone wants to make an AI movie, they use prompts to produce exactly the characters they want for the story, what is there to gain by bringing a specific AI actor into the production?

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And this response to "a different character" gets at a chunk of why I think that either they're not actually hoping to make "Tilly Norwood" a "movie star," or are doomed to flame out ignominiously if they are. Because if you wanted to do it, you wouldn't be doing this.

calicoday.bsky.social@calicoday.bsky.social

Def not playing a DIFF character. But there's good, predictable money in a series about the same, esp stock, characters that never age. The Little Rascals comes to mind. Not my thing, tho.

The first movie with an AI lead character if we ever get one, is either going to be a corpse-puppet of an existing celebrity or a generic one-shot AI made for that movie or an alley-oop of an AI character that went viral in some other media niche. It won't be a Tilly Norwood.

It does occur to me as well to contemplate where Lisa Murkowski, who is up for re-election in 2028, lands on all sorts of questions in 2027 if she finds herself in a Dem senate—particularly one in which Mary Peltola is her Alaskan colleague.

Asawin Suebsaeng@swin24.bsky.social

Am i doing my math wrong or is it distinctly possible that if the wave is big enough it’s not unreasonable to think Fetterman may not actually matter that much

And a 2027 senate in which Fetterman is the 51st Dem and Murkowski is the 49th Republican might well be one in which Fetterman has less leverage on certain questions than he's fantasizing about now.

This is such a good point (the post below and the one after it). The distance from where we are to "financially successful narrative AI movie with AI actors" is vast, and the distance from there to "AI movie stars" is probably just as big, maybe bigger.

DJ Jazzy Sweater Vest@craig.agitate-discourse.org

The whole intended business model makes zero sense. Say someone wants to make an AI movie, they use prompts to produce exactly the characters they want for the story, what is there to gain by bringing a specific AI actor into the production?

I think it's very unlikely that this company ever makes a Tilly Norwood movie. But the chances that they make a second? With "Tilly Norwood" "playing" a different character than in the first? Basically zero, even if we assume a wildly improbable level of success for the first one.

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You can already fine tune the character in every way you can imagine, Tilly Norwood would just be adding extraneous constraints to the character with a lot of extra steps. The only possible benefit is to inject “star power” to the production and a Tilly Norwood could never gain that status.

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The whole intended business model makes zero sense. Say someone wants to make an AI movie, they use prompts to produce exactly the characters they want for the story, what is there to gain by bringing a specific AI actor into the production?

And the evidence that we have so far indicates that it would be pretty much unwatchable. AI video is competent at the one-to-five-second level, as long as you don't need any actual acting, but beyond that, every example of it I've seen has been janky, incoherent, and deadly boring.

Would be an incredibly expensive movie to make unless it's funded by AI money as a marketing expense

One thing I’ve noticed about the Tilly Norwood media blitz: There’s a lot of talk about an upcoming movie, but very little evidence that that movie actually … exists.

Again: "Tilly Norwood" is not a person; it is a shoddy, and also pretty gross puppet. Stop referring to it as "she," and start asking whether there might be something a bit off about wanting to promote a sexualized but also childlike "actor" that can never tell its creators or users "no."

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To put it another way, there's a company that says they're planning on making a Tilly Norwood movie, but the hard evidence that anyone's actually going to make that movie is still very very thin. And though that company describes itself as a production studio, they've never made a movie before.

The "studio" website is full of vague generalities about the work that they do, but includes specific references to just two clients, each of which they seem to have made a single ad for. (The ads are twenty and thirty seconds long, respectively, and include no narrative or AI-actor content.)

One thing I’ve noticed about the Tilly Norwood media blitz: There’s a lot of talk about an upcoming movie, but very little evidence that that movie actually … exists.

Again: "Tilly Norwood" is not a person; it is a shoddy, and also pretty gross puppet. Stop referring to it as "she," and start asking whether there might be something a bit off about wanting to promote a sexualized but also childlike "actor" that can never tell its creators or users "no."

Variety describes the movie as being "in early development, with key collaborators currently being attached," which basically means "there's no script, no set funding, and no contracted production team."

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One great thing about the fact that so many people are expecting the midterms to be a disaster for the GOP is that if Trump does order up crimes to tilt the election his way, some people who would have been happy to do that a year ago are more likely to worry there might be consequences for them.

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one other compounding component of this is that there was a report earlier that small R donors are donating directly to Trump Aligned Pacs. Which means he really controls the money spout. and Pac money doesn't' go as far as candidate money. His ability to hamstring them from all angles is important

We've reached the "Republican House Members cutting anti-Trump campaign ads" stage of the GOP implosion.

Greg Giroux@greggiroux.bsky.social

"Mr. President, some of your immigration enforcement efforts have gone too far." "The same Hispanics who helped you get to the White House in 2024 feel betrayed today." -Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar (R-Fla), a former broadcast journalist, direct to camera in campaign ad #FL27

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(I did some math a little wrong in my head a couple of posts up. There are between thirty and fifty-five seats more at risk than Salazar's, so call it a back-of-the-envelope baseline of forty, not fifty.)

We've reached the "Republican House Members cutting anti-Trump campaign ads" stage of the GOP implosion.

Greg Giroux@greggiroux.bsky.social

"Mr. President, some of your immigration enforcement efforts have gone too far." "The same Hispanics who helped you get to the White House in 2024 feel betrayed today." -Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar (R-Fla), a former broadcast journalist, direct to camera in campaign ad #FL27

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Looking at the rankings on the various prediction sites—not the betting sites, the analysis sites—there seem to be something like FIFTY House seats held by Republicans that are more at risk of flipping than Salazar's. If she goes ... it's an absurd bloodbath.

And remember, it's not like there are no costs to this kind of messaging. Trump isn't somone who you can sidle up to and say "I'm going to have to beat you up a bit in my next ad. I don't mean it. You understand." There are presidents you can do that with, if you need to. He's not one of them.

We've reached the "Republican House Members cutting anti-Trump campaign ads" stage of the GOP implosion.

Greg Giroux@greggiroux.bsky.social

"Mr. President, some of your immigration enforcement efforts have gone too far." "The same Hispanics who helped you get to the White House in 2024 feel betrayed today." -Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar (R-Fla), a former broadcast journalist, direct to camera in campaign ad #FL27

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Also: "the leader is getting bad advice from his minions" is PRECISELY how you criticize a vengeful dictator, if you want to stay out of prison. That it's such a common trope in GOP criticism of Trump is one of those small clear tells that reveal so much.

By the way, this is a district that Trump won by 15 points two years ago, and a seat that Salazar won re-election in by 20 the same year. If SHE'S nervous, good lord.

We've reached the "Republican House Members cutting anti-Trump campaign ads" stage of the GOP implosion.

Greg Giroux@greggiroux.bsky.social

"Mr. President, some of your immigration enforcement efforts have gone too far." "The same Hispanics who helped you get to the White House in 2024 feel betrayed today." -Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar (R-Fla), a former broadcast journalist, direct to camera in campaign ad #FL27

Really interesting to note that the tone and the script of the ad are so different—the tone is for viscerally anti-Trump voters, and the script is for the pro-Trump base.

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The T•••• OceanGate was detected all over the world well before anyone admitted it

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This post encapsulates a lot of my feeling about the Trump implosion—that the sheer scale of it is likely to provide Dems with a template for a pretty sweeping 2029 agenda.