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Wait, doesn't this just prove you could of just added avatar search this entire time?

You do realize that many creators are against that, right? Of course they could have.

I see this excuse brought up alot by people not making avatars. Meanwhile the 12 or so avatar creators I actually know who solely operate on the web personally probably wouldn't give a fuck. Neither do the 300 or so people commenting on vrchat.canny.io

Not enjoying the precedent of "officially licensed avatars" being set here. Count down the days until Nintendo or Disney start having accounts banned who uploaded avatars that violate their copyright.

Yall are trying to bridge that gap of avatar hunting, I get that, but this is strictly against what most of the avatar creators have for their ToS, to not resell the asset(s) for personal gain without proper licensing. Good on you, but the execution is not what people imagined.

How are yall going to regulate if/when someone has the proper licenses to resell the assets on the platform?

They're going to vet every creator that wants to sell on the marketplace.

Imagine if you have in description of your socials as a creator and they force you to remove your listing bc of it. That's basically what is sayin. Sounds a LOT like what flickr did & other spaces who "charge" u or ban u from "promoting" as if thats not 75% of an artist's job these days 🙄

You NEED to promo your stuff so ppl can contact you for troubleshooting, feedback, supp, & find more of your work, give community response, grow your userbase, grow your reviews, expertise. Plus ppl who do comissions or texture re-edits NEED to have that info there???

This is hostile as heck to your content creators. You basically are doing exactly what Apple did and lost in court, while also restricting users the ability to get source files for content they paid for. People who put in the hard work deserve better.

The way it's worded also makes it sound like it would be really difficult to let people know before they buy something that they can also get the source files somewhere else for free or at a discount once they purchase.

Wait so you don't even get source files there? What the fuck

Yup, nor are you allowed to advertise it. In Second Life's marketplace, you sometimes can't get the model files, but you can often get the PSDs and their related links on popular items. This is completely allowed there, so it's a bit strange VRChat would put up a barrier to even basic offerings.

I think this is a fantastic way for Quest-only users and those intimidated by Unity to enjoy content in the game while the original creator is rewarded for it. I hope this is successful in that regard.

Not getting the source files makes me completely uninterested as a buyer, since I (and a good portion of the furry community) make custom edits to fit our fursonas better. As a seller I'm interested if people are able to provide proof of purchase so I can give away source files if they ask for them

Yep, there’s proof. Sellers can see buyers in their transaction history. ask.vrchat.com/t/avatar-mar...

You can also like… sell on multiple platforms? If someone wants to make edits they buy off booth, if they want a simper way they do it through VRC.

What if someone buys my avatar on VRC marketplace and then realizes they can get the source files on a different storefront, but now they have to rebuy the entire avatar again? I'd like to take steps to avoid that, I don't want my customers to get screwed over.

As a creator the only alternative I see is making the vrchat one cheaper since it doesn't technically get you everything. I don't like that really since, again, people don't get the files and are relying that vrchat will still provide a service in the years to come.

you should edit that image slightly if your going advertise this sort of thing.. the mouse model used is actually from a game! Look up Moss on steam thats where the mouse came from.. just want to let ya know so folks don't get the idea to put game models into the marketplace..

bsky.app/profile/poly... The game studio themselves uploaded their own character to the VRChat marketplace, so there is no foul play here.

Woah, only took like 7 years 😭

You realize they have multiple priorities? You make it sound like this is the *only* think they’ve been working on.

Like the phone clients literally noone asked for and all the top rated feature requests and bug reports sitting on vrchat.canny.io For all of those years being marked as "tracked" before being totally ignored?

After like 5 years of just maintaining and small fixes. Like Gumroad has existed for 7 years, and mods existed until they “patched it” then they added stuff to VRC+ that could’ve been moded in. Like Drone cameras and Stickers.

So what's the pool look like for how long before we start seeing ripped avatars end up on the market?

Oh… that’s an issue especially for people who have Demo models. There should be a don’t allow downloads option like how I prevent people from cloning my Persona.

This isn't a permissions issue. This is VRChat not Second Life. The way content is delivered has never been secure as you can rip even without having a client. The bigger problem is when it comes to VRChat's moderation which doesn't always address ripped content in a timely fashion.

So not only are we prevented from including source files, but we can't even tell people where to find them? "Don't encourage users to purchase your content on another platform so they can gain access to source files." - creators.vrchat.com/economy/guid...

to repeat something i already said about facebook horizons avatars, 'infinite potential of custom animal bodies aside, it's the difference between being able to upload any shirt design you want and only having a few options to spend jewels on in the store' what if I just want to rescale 8 bones?

Solutions to this that the community has suggested: - Allow source files to be optimally included in the vrchat marketplace - Allow us to link to other marketplaces where the source files can be found, along with an api to verify vrchat purchases for easy transfer

The first option would step on the toes of other marketplaces, but the second option is complicated. It kind of sucks either way. At its core, this new marketplace is exploitive of people who don't know unity

just wanted to add this to prevent any confusion: this probably only applies to the marketplace listing. of course you can still upload your avatar anywhere else. you just can't tell people about those places in the vrchat marketplace, it seems