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Hey #GameDev and #ATProto! I'm working on tools to decentralize the ownership and management of video games by putting them (or at least their data... for now) on ATProto! I'm looking for feedback, so if you have any interest I'd love to hear your thoughts. ♥️ 🎮 ♥️

wasn't there a whole thing about how bluesky's ATProtocol can't be decentralized currently because there's something missing from the open source stuff? Or was that fixed at some point?

Bluesky itself was centralized when they launched, but they've successfully decentralized the protocol. At this point it's in a very good place: self-hosted PDS, alt AppViews (like deer.social and blacksky.community), and even distributed relays. It's a really great architecture, honestly.

Deer.social doesn't have an AppView, I'm not sure if Blacksky's has launched publicly

Aren't their public-facing websites considered AppViews? Or am I mixing up terms?

Nah, AppView is what I've seen them also call "app server" lately - mackuba.eu/2025/08/20/i.... Things like deer.social (and bsky.app) are just JS frontend webapps that connect to your PDS and/or some kind of AppView (right now all to api.bsky.app).

Yeah it's definitely confusing… the "view" is kind of from "database view", but that's not what it means to most people

I was talking to someone about this recently and got wondering - is there a list of independent AppViews somewhere? I managed to find a list of Relays on debug.hose.cam (iiuc there are 4 independent ones atm) but I wasn't able to find something similar for AppViews

Likely what you mean is “independent microblog AppView” Every lexicon type for apps — eg Leaflet with long form writing — run an AppView. It’s best to just say “app” Forum has a mix of forked clients, some of which run an AppView discourse.atprotocol.community/t/alternate-...