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Quitting programming as a career right now because of LLMs would be like quitting carpentry as a career thanks to the invention of the table saw.

Given the non-deterministic nature of LLMs, maybe sheep dogs are a better analogy than a table saw! bsky.app/profile/simo...

Using an LLM is like having an adversarial agent data mining my research methodology and encumbering me with irrelevant distractions. It's an ADHD sheep dog that forgot to take its Ritalin and is being distracted by an orgy of squirrels and bouncing balls.

All I can say is you must be an amazing developer or a terrible LLM user. I've been coding for 30 years and I can build things orders of magnitude faster now than I could before.

but can you build things faster *without compromising on robustness, performance, or quality*?

I can, definitely

genuinely curious to see your code now, i'm yet to see anything with large probabilistically generated components that didn't have immediate glaring issues.

Oh it always has glaring issues! You fix those (or have it fix them for you) before you commit

This. I refactor all the time and I add shitloads of static analysis tools to improve quality. The LLM helps me identify issues as well as address issues it identifies or that the tools identify.

i notice neither of you are offering up examples of code for review still :p

github.com/simonw - take your pick, anything I've committed in the past 12 months likely had some form of LLM assistance