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Lots of ink spilled on "Loop engineering", but no one seems to connect it to its much older name: Cybernetics. Maybe by the year's end, we'll recognize that it was all Control Theory engineering all along.

The "loop" everyone's excited about (perceive state, compare to goal, act, observe, repeat) has been the fundamental architecture for goal-directed systems since 1948. We keep rediscovering cybernetics. And it's very much connected to precursor-AI. x.com/omarsar0/st...

Norbert Wiener coined "cybernetics" from the Greek kybernētēs, or "steersman." The field was about one question: how does a system observe its own state, compare it to a goal, and act to close the gap? His canonical example was a gun turret tracking an aircraft.

This wasn't adjacent to early AI. It *was* early AI. Warren McCulloch organized ten conferences from 1946–1953; formally titled "Circular Causal and Feedback Mechanisms in Biological and Social Systems." The goal: a unified theory of mind and machine. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macy_c...

Wiener (cybernetics), von Neumann (computer arch, game theory...too many to name), Shannon (info theory) were all in the same room. The question "can a machine regulate itself toward a goal?" was the question of both cybernetics and AI. Same project, before the fields diverged.

McCulloch & Pitts modeled neurons as logical threshold units in 1943, the direct ancestor of neural networks. They were cyberneticists first. Feedback, not logic, was the original frame for machine intelligence.

Actually we were unaware of the deep history of the term and the connection to cybernetics. We just needed something that would clear legal trademark review. It was a very happy accident. And anyone who is Greek will tell you how we absolutely butcher the pronunciation.

Haha! It seemed such a straightforward through line that I wouldn’t have thought the connection to cybernetic was a happy accident. But at least the meaning of “helmsman” was deliberate, I venture?

Yeah. We were desperate for a name and @cmcluck.bsky.social was driving and looked at the steering wheel and looked up related words in Greek. I then just guessed at pronunciation. Only later did we put it all together. I wish we had been that clever!

That's why Kubernetes is all declarative programming with YAML files. You declare the state of the system that you want your cluster to be in, and the underlying system works to return to that state under perturbations like CPU, disks, and network going down or influx of traffic.

Its controller manager watches actual cluster state, compares it to desired state, and corrects continuously. Every reconciliation loop is a closed-loop regulator responding to hardware going up and down. Kubernetes is applied cybernetics. Explicitly.

Loop engineering is the same architecture again. The LLM is the controller. The environment (filesystem, tests, GitHub) is the plant (sys being controlled). Your goal spec is the setpoint. Same structure as the gun turret. Same structure as the Kubernetes reconciliation loop x.com/mvanhorn/st...