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If you're just asking the AI to write code for you while having no fucking clue how to program its garbage. Which is what the majority of Claude-made recomps are doing unfortunately

My employer uses Claude to generate powershell scripts and asks me to approve/edit them. It's actually better documented/formatted and more readable than most code posted on reddit or elsewhere. It does make mistakes, which I correct, but overall saves us some time 😬

There is no degree of slopcode that is acceptable, its presence is a brown m&m that indicates a shitty engineer

yeah, my fellow software nerds are notoriously stupid and myopic.

Why do you need that much compute to execute those tasks? Are they worth the 'tokens' spent in terms of the resource and financial expenditure opportunity cost?

Anyone can generate a garbage website with an LLM, but doing anything actually meaningful still takes expertise and often mountains of effort. Just not as much as before, and imo that's a good thing.

That’s because they’re different disciplines. One is art and the other is computer

I think that's because no matter what you can't prompt an AI or whatever to generate what we as people want from a text, but to be completely honest, when it comes to programming sometimes we just want software that works. Emphasis on sometimes, because artful software is still cool

i'm gonna be honest, as a programmer, even in programming a ton of people are falling for the snake oil nonsense ai-generated code sucks shit to work with and is noticeably worse than working with your own code or code by a remotely competent third person

I'm not an educated enough materialist to make this argument properly but I'm inclined to say this is because programming is a 70 year old craft where the entire goal is to make yourself obsolete as quickly and profoundly as possible by any means necessary it's like inverse luddism somehow

Really funny how programmers always go "it's fine for programming cause it's less artistic"(it still is), as if all the other ethical problems with it just vanish suddenly

a lot of this divide feels downstream of how programming is a rather weird field, because the core raison d'etre for development of computers and software is to automate as much work as possible

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Adding to this - reviewing slop code is arguably worse than just doing it right the first time

It frustrates me hearing my boss talk about "AI tools" and streamlining work with AI and vibe coding. I'm never going to use AI for programming or anything else. It doesn't matter if it's "here to stay" or if I'm going to "fall behind." I'll do it myself, ask for help from a human, or die trying

the ethical harms of AI go way, way deeper than stolen data. data centers create miasmas of death around them. magic mirrors are a producer of tantalizing lies that drive men mad. but if you're not plugged into the anti-AI flamewar you probably think "well I don't care about theft so it's fine"

Like, when was the last time you ever saw a program or a game judged by the beauty of its code? All I can think of is YouTube videos about how Undertale is "coded badly". But would anyone ever say "Undertale is bad because of the way it was coded". Of course not, because it resulted in a good game.

I'm a coder and this shit is immediately disqualifying for any reason. There are many who feel this way, but too many who don't.

you can already run open-weights models on a decently spec'd out gaming rig (assuming you bought one before RAM became Pokemon cards). they have performance close to the giant frontier models which is to say they are useless for 95% of non-slop-generating tasks

and the coders are right