the funny thing is when people do discourse about fandom ruining stories or the audience needing the moral lesson spelled out like babies its always aimed at whatever gay teenagers are watching but for me the poster child example is still the final episode of breaking bad
no one ever brings it up in these convos because it's serious stories for adult men but the scene where walter white gives a power point presentation to camera addressing the themes of the show and how he has absolutely learned his lesson is This to a T
it is awesome how much he fucking sucked he could not work with and cruise by working with the mythical unicorn that is gus the only ever actually smart competent big criminal boss because he is a really cringe pathetic asshole who thinks killing a few no names makes him the ultimate bad ass