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I’ve been using Firefox as exclusively as possible for years and have been quite happy with it. Combined with Nord VPN, Incogni, and the Ghostery extension the number of junk calls I’ve gotten has dropped to zero. Thank you for making a useful browser.

Fair enough, but it's important when making these kinds of arguments to reduce ambiguity. For example, if most people don't know what Blink is, and your goal here is to explain rendering engines, it's bad form to perpetuate the ignorance.

Meanwhile, Safari:

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I have been using Netscape Navigator and Firefox since the very beginning. It always felt rebellious. Fighting monopolies one at a time.

Gecko is great until you hit a web site that it doesn't work with, like my credit unions rewards/travel booking service. Also, still can't do HDR video. 🤷‍♂️

A good example of this are adblockers! Having a seat at the table means giving you a real choice so you can browse on your terms. 5/7

Uh... WebKit is not closed source. github.com/WebKit/WebKit

It's not closed sourced, but it is the foundation for Chromium, so same family.

What does duck duck go use?

This is a fine thread, but when you're all putting the same crappy AI into your browsers then it doesn't matter which one we pick, we still end up with the same disaster at the end of it. PLEASE stop trying to put AI in here!

Right? I thought no one was supposed to have a monopoly.

firefox user here. i recently installed the darkreader extension, forces every website to go to dark screen night mode.

@firefox.com right now...

We appreciate everyone's feedback here! It's important to note that these features are optional, off by default, and local models are downloaded if the feature is used. This won't please everyone but we do want to provide more context into how we're approaching it.

Not currently a Firefox user and my hesitancy was 50% hearing about the browser adding AI. If it were turned off or not included by default (or why not just scrap it entirely!) I would download immediately.

Well said! You're a web browser, focus on making that better, and just TRY not to fall for all the hype. AI is a big deal, for a lot of use cases, but being a browser assistant is not one of them.

Hello. As a Firefox user and a cultural worker, I have this question: Do the AI models Firefox uses respect copyright? That is, if these models use movies, novels, photos, or illustrations to train their AI, they infringe copyright (as ChatGPT does).

I agree wholeheartedly. Now stop paying your CEO over 7 million dollars and stop hiring a ton of executives and get good programmers to make Firefox the best it could be. You can't ask people for donations if a huge chunk of it goes to management. It's not that complex.

i mean well, would it be so terrible to only use one brand electro car? Evil bad communist idea i guess, so lets gas earth with fossil engines.

I have used Firefox for so long that I can't remember anymore. It's flexible, and I love how I am able to install various extensions that help prevent tracking and block annoying ads on YouTube. You can't do that on Chrome or MS Edge...😁

Ive been a firefox kid since like 2004 and I hope its the only browser ill ever have to use.

Love you firefox

Why haven't you fixed your address bar giltch? Stop making unfunny jokes and do something.

I use @firefox.com daily, and I support the engine alternative. But I am skeptical of the management layer of the organization behind it. I fear that poor technical decisions will ruin the product. More time and effort should be put into the core (the engine) and less on AI related stuff.

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