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I believe boots on the ground are inevitable. 😕

But it sure makes for enemies, broken homes, devastated infrastructure & collapsed society.

Five Dollar Gas is losing.

Donald knows nothing about winning a war. Hegseth knows nothing about winning a war. There are likely a few yet-unfired Generals left who DO know how to win a war------but they don't dare say a word about it to either Donald or Hegseth, for fear of losing their jobs (and benefits).

“It’s not foreign policy. It’s a volatility machine with a flag pin. bsky.app/profile/nava...

Trump is useless in negotiations, his solution is always destruction of the opponent. It’s all he he ever does: “Winner takes all”. This isn’t going to work with Iran

Adam Kinzinger Here’s the uncomfortable truth: And if you engage in war, you either commit to an achievable outcome or you shouldn’t start it in the first place. == Missing w/trump's war - An ideal. WWII fought against Nazi's & freedom -- trumpWI - to protect a corrupt grifter & his ego

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This was already known Adam and yet the US Government decided to bomb yet another country resulting in adverse impacts to the American taxpayer.

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Drone power can.... Just ask Ukraine.. where 95% of all KIA russians are killed by drones... where Ground drowns hold defensive lines and attack offensively and they both take prisoners... as Far as the US... 20 years In Afghanistan and the Taliban walked into Kabul without firing a shot.. "Lesson"

This outcome was gigantic profits for the oil companies. Objective achieved. This is why tRump keeps turning down peace deals. He said he doesn't care about regular folks. Why would he?

Alaska talks failed, Geneva talks never materialized, Cuba/Venezuela talks vanished, and Taiwan talks dissappeard.

How is that uncomfortable? none of us wanted this

I think you stay out of a war unless war unless there is no other option. Obama was able to get an effective nuclear deal with Iran without going to war.

Soo correct, unfortunately this administration is trying to push a false narrative towards the war to keep Americans pacified, but doesn't seem to be working that well!

Since 1945

Nothing new. Drones are changing strategy. No one with even a basic understanding of history expected anything other than what we currently have. Iran has spent a generation expecting to be attacked by the US. This administration is incompetent and corrupt.

It a well know fact that air power doesn’t win wars. What is wrong with them.

Old NATO joke: A Soviet armored general bumped into a Soviet infantry general after a victory parade in Paris and asked “by the way, who won the air war”?

Go tell that to the guys down at Maxwell. When I attended the Air (Force) Command and Staff College that was their glassy eyed monastic chant. I guess we had to find out the hard way. Good thing we’re only fighting to hide the Epstein Files.

It's pretty simple: A stupid war started by a demented idiot!

That sounds perilously close to book learnin'. We don't need none of that in our anti-woke lethal make-our-own-rules military that wins so much we're tired of winning already.

start a popular uprising, based on the actions of the Iranian people before all of this and thinking they could overwhelm the government, not realizing that the people couldn't do it and now we are stuck with this mess.

“Should I stay or should I go…” - The Clash, which is an appropriate name.

Trump wanted the quick decapitation of Irans government, that didn’t happen. Trump has no Plan B. He is simply lost. He has no idea what to do & literally the best he could expect is a version ofObama plan.Trump is not a deep thinker nor a strategic thinker he thought it’d be quick& easy.What a fool

This mess is because stupid Trump appointed people more stupid than he is. Hegseth is an unqualified disaster and he fired qualified people and replaced them with imbeciles

Old Cold War joke: Two Soviet Generals having lunch in Paris and one says to the other, "So. Who won the air war?"

Here’s another uncomfortable truth, oil prices are this low is because countries are using their oil reserves to keep prices down. That will end in June or early July. Prepare for increased gas prices. Also, a shortage of motor oil is going to hit soon.

An unfortunate irony is that, in trying to destroy Iran, Tramp is destroying the United States.

Last point is the big one. Bush 1 and the commanders who began their military careers in Vietnam were VERY aware of it in the Gulf War. Then came Bush 2 and Tinhorn Donald. I'm younger than both but remember our forces in Nam being tasked with killing Vietnamese to save them. Doesn't work.

But troops are going today. Get er done. MAGA...... What no troops today? For the sixth time. FFS.

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In my lifetime the only president who ever conducted a completely necessary war was GHW Bush. He worked with allies to get them to support his war with a specific goal: expel Iraq from Kuwait. He had a clearly defined goal to expel an invader from a sovereign country & restore Kuwait's sovereignty.

It was started to distract from the Epstein files scandal!

Good analysis. US has the only military capable of forcing the Strait open. Don't understand the reluctance to do so, other than that casualties will be much higher than military is used to.

I'm concerned "TACO" talk & faulting him for failing to commit to an achievable outcome will prompt this dull-witted, desperate degenerate to make Iran "glow". I think that was what recent scheduled meeting in Situation Room was about. Now there's reason to believe Saudis dissuaded him from this.

But Pete Hegseth & Draft Dodger Trump So enjoy watching all those Military video of the BOMBING 💥BOOMS💥! Every time they see a BIG 💥BOOM💥 on our Military Videos of the bombing on Iran BOTH of these PATHETIC BIG MOUTHS little … get 💥EXCITED💥!

It's Trump who is stuck, as are those in the military who willingly went along with his illegal war. The majority of Americans want nothing to do with this war. The worse it gets, the quicker Trump is discarded.

Unless your trying to distract from being a pedophile

Trump is going to drag this war on as long as possible, in hopes that he can use it as a reason to stay in power.

Truth is. Iran has nothing to do with nuclear capabilities. But it has everything to do with tRump trying to pull focus from the Epstein files.

"We" didn't start WWII directly, but those of us who penned the Treaty of Versailles ending WWI planted seeds for at least the Euro part of WWII. So, like you said, we didn't learn very much from that experience either.

It's insane that the US still haven't learn their lessons (Viet-Nam, Afghanistan, 2nd Irak operation) on asymmetrical warfare. Yes you got a big bazooka but you can't kill mosquitos with it. But the mosquitos can inflict you death by a thousand cuts. Oh and hegesth is an idiotic drunkard !

MAGAsses deserve this loser. #GOP Congress has the power to remove this criminal. I shed zero tears for these clowns.

Trump and Hegseth had NO STRATEGY. Period. No strategy beyond bombing the shit out of them and no strategy to exit from this. Stupid and incompetent.

TY. Keep fighting for good without respect or honesty. It’s all we’ve got. But don’t side with Republicans anymore, ever. They got conned & taken over by the Far Right. Not good people, just mentally unwell people, who refuse care. We cannot cure stupid.

This is what happens when we have incompetent people running this country. And the worst of all we gave to call President.

And this one should never have been started in the first place. But our idiot president had to tear up an already viable agreement, because it wasn’t his idea. Now look at the shit he’s gotten us into, and he doesn’t know how to end it. FUDJT, and your entire sycophantic administration!!

The first person I heard this from was… Obama.

Another Republican war. Bush lied about WMD and gave us a 20 year war. Stump lied about nukes, and here we are in a war that even a blind man would say...WTF. Keep voting Republican suckers.

Won't be Drump's Vietnam for long, Drump doesn't have much of an attention span. Or probably lifespan, though we're all still waiting for that celebration.

So ? The country is in it, in a war , the trillions in debt will continue to grow Economy in shambles for many The sadness in the country prevails even though every life continues , but the law s, Ethics broken everything prevails

You missed: the uncomfortable truth is the hospitals, schools, pharma research, vaccination centers, red crescents, factories, bridges, rail roads, and homes you war criminal military bombed with the people with them. America is full of assholes who think middle eastern ppl dont deserve to live

Can't stop thinking about the 170 little girls bombed to death while sitting in school. Is that ^ worth this?

If only they had read Thucydides.

In fact, even if you commit to an achievable outcome, you shouldn't start a war in the first place. Attacking other countries is evil, and participating in that attack is evil.

Absolutely! The first thing I learned in Military History class is that air power alone does not win wars. The second thing was that “Battlemania Theory” (the belief that one big battle decides a war) disappeared with Napoleon. Foundational concepts that DT clearly does not have or understand!

The book to read right now. Obviously, Trump didn't (but he doesn't read anything). bookshop.org/p/books/war-...

Kegsbreth doesn't care

Kegbreath doesn’t understand how sun tzu’s ‘art of war’ actually works & Donald doesn’t know WTAF he’s doing diplomatically!!!! They’re USELESS PRICKS!!! Ffs IMPEACH THE TANGERINE PALPATINE!!! Ffs🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤯🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤡’s

Video games Adam, they think they're in a simulation that they can quit at any time. Unfortunately lives were lost in real life with no consequences.

He got to manipulate the markets, cycle our munitions inventory to the benefit of the MIC and now has a plausible "excuse" for martial law in Nov. Oh and he did a solid for Bibi.

It occurred to me that air power alone did win one war, but it did take two trips and no sane person would ever consider it again. The next question is: is Trump sane? Not very.

Yep

Since when have RepubliKKKans cared about truth?

You're ascribing intelligence to single celled organisms. Who were put in charge by other single celled organisms. No surprise that we're where we are now. If we could only get a human in charge. 😓

Lessons that most of us learned from the Vietnam debacle. Furthermore, wars require a raison d'être. Why are we risking American lives, risking the lives of civilians, and spending billions of dollars on materiel?

Wow!

Trump and his goon squad think you can blow up some stuff thump your chest and talk shit and everyone will mess themselves and just throw up their hands

Because you are stuck with a president and admin waging a long-game war on the US & your Congress, Senate & Supreme Court are complicit. They will not commit to ending the regime & putting the real criminals in jail. Instead, they allow innocent people to be thrown into detention centres & deported.

Similar to the old integration vs segregation argument.

We could get into and would love to have a serious discussion about where this nation has been and where we could be headed. We could get into and would love to have a serious discussion about where this nation has been and where we could be headed.

And Trump appears to have a Hormuz stuck strait up his ass.

I’d like an acknowledgement that bombs kill people. It’s not wiping out a country, or a civilization, or terrorists. Our bombs kill people.

That's what happens when you have an incompetent strategist in the planning

I'm old enough to remember when he threatened war with Europe over Greenland... He still fancies Cuba would give him an easy win as a distraction.

You can win territory with air power, but you can't hold it. To hold it you need a bunch of surly teenagers with guns and bad attitudes.

🚨THIS!!!!🚨

The more uncomfortable truth is that our president is a mentally deficient immoral pedophile.

💯% now remove the useless chaff 🇺🇸

And if you’re an idiot like trump you wouldnt know that. And since he’s the one calling the shots….

The United States is stuck in the most predictable place possible. Republicans start forever wars they can't finish, it's a feature of the party, not a bug. This is an objective fact that the historical record bears out. When Congress can invest in defence contractors, peace is not prosperity.

Will Iran be this fuhrer’s Stalingrad?

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It's a war we cannot win. From Vietnam to today, the US still has not learned the limits of military power.

we can end it, just arrest the war criminals. After they are found guilty, hand them over.

*Vizzini meme land war in Asia*

I keep telling people to look at the Vietnam war, another colossal mistake.

Get an f-ing clue! top0.1%/GOP fascists 100% lie, distract, gaslight. top0.1%/GOP fascists are acheiving their outcomes & then some because top0.1%/GOP fascist reason for anything incl. war was & is to distract from the trumpstein files & to continue stealing $1T's from bottom99% for top1%.

Yup you either go in to win or you don’t and it’s gotta be for the right reasons or the ppl will stop it like in so many of the wars the US could have had positive outcomes but when the ppl are not behind it it never works. And not only that but piss poor planning doesn’t help

Amen!! That is why we should elect a man who is NOT a lying felon rapist!!

It’s all for self enrichment, the Trump spawn are now in the DOD drone making business, it’s all double dealing and corruption with no bid contracts given to himself…and not a peep out of all the “but Hunter Biden” pearl clutching screaming meemies😡🤬

TRUTH!

Not if you’re a coward sitting in a bunker. The 🤡 does the same thing blowing up fishing boats near Venezuela.

Targetry dot make up for less than strategy.

He skipped out on Vietnam, so I guess he's catching up now

That’s requires thought…. Not a loud mouth sucker puncher in the drivers seat . Worse when you have multiples . And the yes men and women who follow them, they won’t be there long so look at your actions, it won’t get you far.

Most of trump’s people are fools. I think Kegseth thinks he’s playing a game and we have the two worst negotiators ever. No goal, no plan, no exit strategy. How can you get anywhere?

The US has made many strategic blunders in foreign policy in the past. But none with such a stupid president. This is good in a perverse way: it’s impossible to gild such an obvious turd.

The problem the tRump administration doesn’t seem to understand is that Iran sees the US as an enemy and will endure enormous pain to stay independent from American influence. Democracy isn’t delivered with assault rifles. Maybe try diplomacy instead, like Biden did.

If only someone had told #FuckTrump.🤷‍♂️

Chernobyl was the end of the USSR. Trump is the end of the USA.

As a LTC, I'm sure you did staff college. We learned war is never a viable option and is to be avoided at all costs. We also learned the commander's intent had to be clearly stated so combatant commanders could plan appropriately. Here, there was no planning or consideration of the consequences.

These motherfuckers don’t understand armed conflict and it shows

He destroyed the agreement himself, then planned to waltz back in as the hero for "securing" it again, which hasn't happened yet. That's not leadership—that's banking on people forgetting that he broke it in the first place.

We know what Trump wants, world domination , but he’s going about it all wrong. It’s why he admires autocrats and dictators.

Trump bought into his own hype. He thought he could do anything.

It makes money.... What else did you expect?..

Affordable drone tech has changed the landscape of the globe. Wealthy countries can no longer rely on overwhelming force to make another country accede to their wishes or comply with demands. We need to always engage in diplomacy to an agreeable outcome or risk bankruptcy.

I keep waiting for Iran or another country to use drones to commit a terrorist attack in our country. Wouldn't be that hard to pull off and would cause widespread panic.

Not well educated in the arts, problem solving & higher level thinking. This can be corrected w/ more investment in education, teacher instruction, and varied arts program.

Release the EPSTIEN files Donny

Can we use the word “quagmire” yet, or is it too soon?

But the only response you propose is secure oil and military power. Apparently, you see no alternative to USA being an expansionist petrostate.

Here's the uncomfortable truth: American politicians are far too comfortable with starting wars.

You can’t fix stupid