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@ryansolid.bsky.social thanks for the discussion on stream today! You asked on stream today to show you a trello or otherwise sufficiently complex app in datastar. Here is that as as well as a few others that opened my eyes a bit, as a former skeptic. kanban.jsonbateman.com

There's also an entire google sheets clone: hypersheets.yagni.club and a zero bugs tracker clone: dbugs.yagni.club and 1 billion checkboxes: checkboxes.andersmurphy.com These run on cheap VPS, but you could also run them serverless + DO. Infra is not the limiting factor here.

Not trying to be a dick by highlighting some examples, rather trying to share some of the magic that I've recently found. I get it. I used to dismiss hypermedia apps (and still do think HTMX doesn't go far enough) for richly interactive apps. But there are examples out there.

To be clear: I love Solid and have learned a lot on your streams over the years but felt like there was a bit of dismissal as to the current reality of hypermedia as an option *also for highly interactive apps*, particularly Datastar.

To be clear I don't have an issue with what Datastar offers, just that there is a wider spectrum of considerations. This isn't unlike how Nuxt/Next users think I'm particularly harsh on the scenario where their metaframework ships mostly static content.