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Sam Rose
@samwho.dev

With Fable being so expensive, and API pricing only, my prediction is that companies will restrict access to only prompts that have been signed off by another engineer/manager. I wonder if PR will come to mean “prompt review” as well as “pull request” 😅

Andy Bell
@bell.bz

Sorta takes the whole point of the technology away if it doesn’t “save time” tho right? Fable are just an early domino falling as the mass subsidisation comes to an end across the board IMO

Sam Rose
@samwho.dev

I have found that LLMs save me quite a lot of time, personally. I do agree that prices are going up, though. And by a lot.

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Sam Rose
@samwho.dev

I can believe it for sure. And I’ve no doubt I’ll find myself nodding along to a subset of the points he’s making. But I can’t get through the smugness of it all. Gives me Jordan Peterson or Richard Dawkins vibes. It is genuinely funny to watch people melting down over the price increases, tho.

Jim Jonah
@jimjonah.dev

It feels like it saves a lot of time. But I’ve had it miss, lie, and cheat enough times that my time seems to really be shifted to reviewing and trying to understand code I didn’t write as a defense against that. I listened to a podcast by the author if open code. They sell inference time.

Sam Rose
@samwho.dev

Completely agree. I think I’m probably going to write something on this topic quite soon. I’m coming to the end of a project where I’ve generated tens of thousands of lines of code with AI and painstakingly reviewed all of them. It was an awful slog but necessary. I’m sure few others are doing it.

Jim Jonah
@jimjonah.dev

The issues only appeared during load testing where I’m trying to squeeze as much performance as possible out of a single instance of the server. Once I asked the right question I got the, “well yes that would be a best practice.” Despite lots of plan mode and always asking for best practices. Ugg

Jim Jonah
@jimjonah.dev

Yes! For me, for my card game engine, I’m in the middle of a rewrite by hand. Claude painted itself into a corner, which I went along with, I didn’t ask the magic right question. Despite reading every line along the way i missed this. I also don’t feel like I “owned” the code.

Jim Jonah
@jimjonah.dev

He claimed they are getting 60-80% margin on that, if I remember correctly, when using open source models. I suspect it’s really recouping the training costs as quick as possible, plus the lack of a quantity of competitors at that level of quality, that’s driving the price increases.