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In an effort to reach across political divides, a group of veterans has been holding regular gatherings to talk about it all over a beer. They call the events "Pints and Patriotism."

npr.orgFor these veterans, the secret to crossing political divides starts with a beerIn an effort to reach across political divides, a group of veterans has been holding regular gatherings to talk about it — all over a beer. They call the events "Pints and Patriotism."

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If it doesn’t involve punching Nazis, then it’s just appeasements. Don’t give right wing wackos the space to air their bullshit. That’s how we got here.

Translation: Shit's about to get real, yo, and they're considering blowback. What if Trump is deposed? What if tyranny makes their toys cost more? One guntuber calls for introspection: "Are you radicalized?" They have longed for this for decades, but never considered the costs until now.

"They are: the right to vote for eligible citizens; denouncing political violence against your opponents; stopping the spread of misinformation about our elections; and accepting the outcome of elections and supporting the peaceful transfer of power."

I'm gonna have a hard time having a beer and polite convo with someone who doesn't think certain ppl deserve basic human rights. I dunno maybe my standards are too high.

A lot of issues could be resolved with a cold glass of beer at a table with a group of potential friends. Not a drunken brawl, just a glass of beer and talking, laughing, sharing. And make that beer Moose Head or Foster's. Do it right.

This is great because unfortunately one of the most depressing things about the state of the country is the fact that the military, veterans and law enforcement are for the most part passionately behind the racist, bigot, draft dodging, authoritarian. It's beyond disgusting

Yes. This is what concerns me. At the end of the day I think it’s all going to depend how the military goes. Certainly the group is not a monolith, but all those that I know? I would not consider them safe people in the current climate.

It’s far deeper than that. Why on EARTH would you want to elect a person the leader of your country because you liked a talk over a beer? We should focus on policy!! Experience. Competence. Vision. I want a President that is better than me in every way: smarter, kinder, better able to juggle 💩.

What's that old german riddle? What do you have when nine nice people sit down to dinner with a nazi? Hint: it's ten nazis. I don't want to sit down with people who want a fascist dictator--which is what the polling indicates they actually want. If this is the way forward, I want a giant meteor.

Hell yeah brother! These snowflakes should pull up by their boot straps and own property I could afford on min wage back in 69'! How I spend my hard earned money on slots and sluts is my business. Also we should send more money to Israel! God I miss the smell of burning flesh #BBC

And who walks out? Cody Gillis says he didn't serve, but his son is in the Navy. He says he doesn't like President Trump much, but agrees with his politics, and points out that Trump won the election decisively and is doing much of what he promised to do during the campaign. /1

Gillis thinks the crowd was left-leaning and didn't want to hear his points about issues of antisemitism at colleges and vandalism of Teslas. And what was discussed, he thinks, was overblown, like the leak of the airstrike details on Signal./end

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Is that mostly white people talking to white people? I just don't have it anywhere in me to talk about our political divides with MAGA. It's like: "I want healthcare" vs. "Kill all brown ppl" Tomato Tomahtoe No!

I tried something similar to this once. But the person I got paired with was a professor at a college and also a Catholic. They argued that gay marriage should be illegal and I said I felt like this argument was similar to the idea that races shouldn't mix. He said that isn't the same.

He then went on to argue that couples in interracial marriages would be on his side. I'm in an interracial marriage but I decided not to disclose that because he is a weirdo. The fact that he probably felt a shared kinship with us both being white grossed me out and I didn't participate again.

Summary fails to mention the MAGA ones walk out. "Gillis thinks the crowd was left-leaning and didn't want to hear his points about issues of antisemitism at colleges and vandalism of Teslas. And what was discussed, he thinks, was overblown, like the leak of the airstrike details on Signal."

You all call them a cult (it is). When deprogramming a cult member, it’s important to give a person a safe “out”. Telling them they were stupid and you will hate them until you die is counterproductive, even if you feel it’s true. Disagree if you want, but I’m not wrong. Do you want progress or not?

Cause many veterans missed the rape conviction, the pedophile accusations, the lies, the hate against others, ignoring the constitution etc so a beer will change their minds. Fuck it, whatever works I guess.

"They are: the right to vote for eligible citizens; denouncing political violence against your opponents; stopping the spread of misinformation about our elections; and accepting the outcome of elections and supporting the peaceful transfer of power." 1/2

Republicans don't believe in any of these things. What we've got here is a bunch of vets who voted for Trump and are now worried that they'll lose their precious benefits. DGAF about anybody else but now it's THEIR ox being gored. Fuck them.

Elected leaders should all sit through presentations from veterans...the truth, pain, sacrifice, and love for the nation...plus hope for a peaceful world can't be discounted. A willingness to listen and learn is required. Cult members do not listen and appreciate such moments.

I quit drinking two years ago rather than continue going to the bar and listening to the MAGA chuds discuss how awesome it would be for (paraphrasing here) “Elon to shut the libs down” and then have those same people thank me for my service.

Yeah. Was around the time he was buying Twitter and they were all excited about the prospect of it. That was the general gist of what they were talking about anyways. It was a whole Fox News talking point smorgasbord. In a sports pub bar and grill. Like stfu and watch sports!

Casting any solution in the patriotic fervor that has been abused and misused by MAGA against anyone they deem unworthy is a non-starter for me. I don’t have to clear anyone’s patriot bar to be an American.

Thank you. Exactly. Have we learned nothing? It’s not a Disney movie where villains are funny and always end up ashamed… snd misunderstood and then they are loved and forgiven by all.

If people don't drop their egos and try to heal, there will be no end. If you think the MAGA lot have it in them to be "the bigger man", by all means, wait for that day. These guys are reaching out to talk. Blessed are the peacemakers.

There will be no peace until misogyny and anti-LGBTQIA ugliness are in the trash bin. There will be no peace until there is no poverty. There will be no peace as long as white people with penises try to assert dominance over those who are different from us. It's not about egos. It's about morality.

Smooth brain. A splash from old spice Fox News (news, really, news?!) daily does that to them. Systematic idioticizing that entire horde. So much so that they import apartheid South Africa colonizers to be a feather on their hoods.

There are some good MAGAs - the ones that are amazingly stupid, but have a good heart. Then there are the rest. Selfish rapey cunts. It's hard to reach across that 'political' divide.

I say to them, when he’s dead and gone they will look back on this and see the truth. As follows: Truth is he was a failed business man (6 times bankruptcy), a game show host, he followed Hitler’s playbook, lied habitually, was a sexual abuser and a fraudster who was convicted with 34 felonies.

I sincerely doubt they will do any of that. I think 🟠‘ll be enshrined in their memories—in this great place of nostalgia—as that one moment in time when he/they came so close 2 making 🇺🇸 great but it got snatched away from them. It’s like that shining moment when Al Bundy threw the winning touchdown.

I’d have to approach it on a case by case basis. If you voted for Trump in this last election, you had 10 years to listen and pay attention. Personally, I’m not interested in healing the divide with the people who voted for this. Live with your choices, you picked your side.

Reaching out to people who support a fucking dictator? A fascist? An antichrist, by Xtian's own theology? I suppose if you assume that these patriots are ignorant of who Trump really is, it is worth the effort. If they support dismantling due process...fuck them too.

I am a veteran. There is no middle ground with what MAGA is doing. There is no middle ground with authoritarianism. People that claim otherwise aren’t in a position to lose anything from it. It’s the very definition of privilege.

It's been nearly a decade. They've only ever doubled down. I get the sentiment you are trying to express, but it's time to accept that they actually believe in and like this evil shit. This is actually who they are. They are not without autonomy, as you imply.

They haven’t been kidnapped. These aren’t children. Each of them has made a choice. Assuming they aren’t capable is a mistake I refuse to make. I’m not a savior. I have not come to unite. This is a time for division. There can be no joining with fascism.

That coddling is exactly how we have gotten here. Maga only respects a kick in the groin. The votes will never come from there. Focusing on the 'no difference' crowd & misinformed non-voters are where we close the margin. They are hardly infants. Nothing was beyond their understanding. Mass deport?

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In the U.S. it's not "political divides" we're beyond the Dem and Repub differences that once were. We're at a very dangerous place, it's good (non-fascists) vs. evil (fascists) now. And no amount of beer will help to change that, but I certainly give them credit for trying.

They still voted for him for a third fcking time. They aren’t changing their minds. The only way they will learn is when they are fcked by his policies and republicans don’t help them. Only then will they learn and I’m not even convinced they would learn the full lesson.

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God bless those angels still reaching out to the maga cult and trying to slowly do the difficult and incremental work to deprogram them. Because personally I have avoided talking to a trumper for years and never will again beyond the bare minimum I need to. They are dead to me.

"Deprogram" is exactly right. And it won't be successful in many cases, unfortunately. Reclaiming lost souls is tough work. —Bureau of Justice says 66% of state prisoners were rearrested within 3 years of release. —Only 68% of people successfully complete rehab and stay sober.

I don’t care what party they support. I cannot fathom how so many of them support a draft dodger who has insulted our military on numerous occasions and shown affection for RUSSIA!