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Another interesting thing that happened in Brazil and might be worth considering in the U.S.: a triumph of the liberal field was to detach Bolsonarism from the right. It wasn’t about left or right anymore; it was both left and right, liberals and centrists, fighting against far-right extremism.

on the one hand, i absolutely agree with you. on the other - HRC, Biden and Harris all tried this to some extent, and it only worked for one of them. once. the danger is that in trying to appeal to the "right wing person that doesn't like far-right extremism" you can end up losing your base.

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I hear you, but what Lula’s campaign has done well in this sense, is not necessarily pandering to the interests of the right but reminding them of how Bolsonaro was planning to overthrow democracy to stay in power for the next many years, killing their possible shot at it in 4 years time

understood. we heard that from Harris, but it seemingly didn't land. i am kind of interested in why. but i absolutely love Lula's unapologetic refusal to "triangulate" or listen to consultants telling him to take up positions to appeal to mythical floating right wing voters.

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