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this is both: 1) an extremely stupid situation caused by a deeply unserious individual and 2) 100% the correct product call by google they do this all the time for disputed names, and even change borders depending on who's viewing, e.g. the disputed border between India and Pakistan.

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I don't think that's likely to make a difference. OpenStreetMap already calls it "Mount McKinley" and I'm sure that all the other major map providers will also call it that once the change is made in USGS.

After digging further, I slightly misrepresented OSM's current state -- they've updated the "official_name" to Mount McKinley but are leaving the "name" as Denali, at least for now. bsky.app/profile/mcmi...

Colin McMillen@mcmillen.dev

OpenStreetMap currently takes the position that Denali's official_name is "Mount McKinley" but that its plain name is "Denali" as that is (for now) the most common name used worldwide. on the flip side, the Gulf of Mexico stays as-is bc the US doesn't have authority to give it a new official_name

Not taking sides in disputed borders between countries in conflicts that in many cases predate Google Maps as an entity is an entirely different thing than capitulating in advance to a completely non-legally binding EO by a nazi madman. No official law or policy has been enacted on America's part.

folks blaming google for "capitulating" on this don't understand that there are 195 countries on the planet & G shows different labels for geographical features to *everyone* depending on their language & country. why would they make a special exception for the US just because we voted in a dumbass

(Specifically, the root source of truth for "what the US government calls things" is the USGS's Geographic Names Information System. Google will call geographic feature #558730 whatever GNIS calls it -- currently "Gulf of Mexico". Like it or not, USGS is part of the executive branch.)

OpenStreetMap currently takes the position that Denali's official_name is "Mount McKinley" but that its plain name is "Denali" as that is (for now) the most common name used worldwide. on the flip side, the Gulf of Mexico stays as-is bc the US doesn't have authority to give it a new official_name

This can both be 100% true and caving immediately without opposing a bit of friction is still a political decision with political consequences. 🤷🏻

Like it or not, it is now officially the position of the United States (whose USGS data files Google ingests to get the names of geographical features in the US) that it's the "Gulf of America". The dispute is with the rest of the world, who will presumably keep calling it the Gulf of Mexico.

So if trump makes an executive order to change the name of California to Trumponia. google will just go by that? Have some fing backbone and change the sourcing on pulling location names. otherwise, its just all performative kabuki