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sometimes someone in my discord is is so self-hating, stating as fact such nasty shit, that they become hostile to any kindness at all. "i'm shit and if you say I'm not you're lying to me" type shit. you have to change your outlook before your helplessness becomes real in a way you don't expect

i remove these people now. they can't be helped but they'll ruin everything around them for as long as it takes for everyone to get sick of them and then point to that as evidence they were right since it's going to happen anyway, you can at least speed it up