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I find it absolutely mad that the conversation has shifted to the point where it's expected that people will be able to effectively own the bit of public street outside their home to use as a personal fuel station www.theguardian.com/environment/...

theguardian.comOn-street EV charging in UK is postcode lottery as drivers face council objectionsDespite government pledges, more than 20 authorities will not allow gullies, citing safety, legal and parking worries

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Most motorists have always, incorrectly, thought the street outside their house is their own. 30yrs ago working in a traffic dept in LG, 70% of my phone calls were to motorists explaining why they were incorrect. Nowts changed!

I think people have felt ownership of the kerb outside thier homes for years. First time someone hassled me was the 80s. EV charging is just the latest justification.

Meanwhile, I see from the news that Austrians whose town owes its existance to serving trade through the Brenner Pass are up in arms about trade through the Brenner Pass *checks notes* using their roads.

How exactly do the residents of the Wipptal benefit from an overloaded autobahn running literally over their heads (it's elevated for much of the way) conveying more heavy trucks per year than all of the Swiss alpine transit routes combined, literally none of which will stop there and spend money?

I was being tongue in cheek, but the idea that trade roads that strech back to before the Roman Empire are 'their roads' and though traffic should sod off does seem to be a bit mental , no?

I used to have to park in some residential streets for one job I had, old guy came out of his house and threatened to smash up the car, he was a bit confused when I pointed out I now knew where he lived.

My opinion on this has changed; I used to be dead against gullies, but fact is we need to change faster and allowing people to charge from home would be a big enabler. Less cars/ more car share necessary, but will take much longer than we have.

I used to be pro gully but ultimately I think these things just embed cars on to a street and make drivers think they own the road more. Good luck getting a Bike hangar installed when the neighbour already has a gully there. Ultimately we need a conversation and solution that works for everyone.

OK, but then how are people without their own private parking to be encouraged to switch to EVs? There does need to be a practical solution to this.

Look, I agree - but also, we should be encouraging reduction in cars and more car share, especially for people without parking. Get rid of the VAT disparity between home and public chargers. Encouraging smaller cars with smaller batteries would mean faster charging at fast chargers away from home.

Smart and practical. Wonder why Europe doesn't do it. In Cologne we had installed induction loading for taxis. Almost nobody wanted to participate, because there where so in love with Diesel.

“Encouraging smaller cars with smaller batteries would mean faster charging at fast chargers away from home.” Er… no it wouldn’t. It would mean _more_ charging stops - the opposite of what you want. What _would_ help would be cheaper charging at local car parks.

How often are people actually using the full range in their big EV? And a heavier bigger EV will need more kWh to do the same range as a smaller lighter EV...

What do people who live in apartments do? They don't get to store their PRIVATE stuff in the stairwells or in the corridor outside their appartment and run a cable t their car. FFS, why do people think that owning a particular type of property entitles you to exclusive use of the PUBLIC street.

Jack Fifield@jackfifield.uk

Look, I agree - but also, we should be encouraging reduction in cars and more car share, especially for people without parking. Get rid of the VAT disparity between home and public chargers. Encouraging smaller cars with smaller batteries would mean faster charging at fast chargers away from home.