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> sick of the robots on the street sharing our space, we didnt consent to that brother you have consent completely fucked up, you cannot consent on behalf of the street dawg

"we didn't consent to" is a 99.9% efficient indicator of an absolute dogshit perspective inbound, just full disconnect from reality, because imagining communal consent to the actions of others requires this

What on earth are you talking about? Nobody asked for Google to spy on its users so egregiously that legislation had to be drawn up to get them to seek “permission”, which they then strongarmed publishers into gaining via cookie banners. *Obviously* some PM asked for that… but so what?!

igi, because often there is an underlying user-ask. google spying lubricates all sorts of "the computer should just know" features that people like-to-claim-to-hate-while-using-them but i think more clearly "no one asked" papers over thinking about why a PM thought this was smart

if you mentally delete "no one asked for this" from one's polemic toolbox and replace it with "why would this ever happen" the latter basically always has an answer that if internalized makes your protest more effective. "why did google spy on us?" - to make ads """better""". that leads to more whys

'no one asked' is also subtly shibboleth-shaped in that it communicates "i am not going to consider entire categories of whys"; if you were you'd get to the person who asked. so when i read it, i know not to bother with certain expectations to think things through, which is probably also suboptimal!

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and at the bottom, taking it at face value, it's approximately a nonsentence. "no one asked (except the person who did ask, ofc)" is most things! very rarely is there a groundswell that predates any action; most solutions have to be sold!

it's weird because the implicit frame of "no one asked for this" is that markets transmit information with perfect reliability, and most of the people who say that will deny that markets transmit information well at all in other contexts