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OMG, triple-yes to so many points from these lists chriskiehl.com/article/thou...

Wtf on kafkaesque parallel, frontend awfulness or both? 😉 I don't want to sound clickbaity here, but I imagine the commentary on that could be a worthy discussion if made into a solid, non-emotional panel on a conference led with good speakers from various backgrounds.

Not clickbaity at all to me 😉 Wtf on yet another folk bashing what they probably lack knowledge/experience in. (too many points relate to backend/architecture to consider him a "frontend engineer"). I despise frontend devs bashing backend - and vice versa - equally the same. Learn first...

Number one reason to have "us and them" in terms of frontend and backend engineers? Our way or your way (or the highway)? Bashing the other side. Comparing any platform to Kafkaesque (the author, not Apache kafka 😛) is just dumb. I mean it. Feel free to bash me 😛

Sure, I agree on that sentiment in full. Bashing not backed with experience is just bollocks whatever the area. But it's not without reason that frontend is quite a bit more polarizing atm than it was few years back, which by itself is an interesting phenomenon to think about.

Well, remember these are not "ultimate truths" but just opinions of a random guy on the internet. It's a bold statement, I agree but I also think there is little something to that IMO (and yes, I used to do frontend quite a lot back then but no longer enjoy it).

I still think "wtf" is a reasonable reaction to that kafkaesque nightmare ignorant opinion of that random guy ;) Not my circus, not my monkeys though ;)

Yeah, I can fully understand this. Would be ideal to know foundations backing his claim in that topic to get bigger picture. Currently all we have is a single bold claim thrown into the internet - what can go wrong :D